Operation: Paid

[jasons0147]

I know I'm new to this forum, but I have realized over the last few months that having an operation is very important. I will be using this operation to track my BR progress, post up questionable spots, and learn as much as possible. For the vast majority of you that dont know me, my name is Jason. Since I am new to this forum I will give everyone a short poker bio on me.

Ive been playing NL Holdem for about 2 years now, and the majority of that time was spent as a loser player. It wasnt till the last few months that I started to take the game seriouslly and started studying it. In fact, it wasnt till after watching about a dozen videos on FTR, and reading a couple hundred post that I started to even come close to seeing a profit. I did have a cash in $3 rebuy tourney on Absolute poker back in novemeber and used what was left of that money after withdrawing to buy PT and PAHUD (both which have been great tools for me). I spent from November to sometime in January playing mostly break even poker and studying the game some. It was in the end of January that I made the switch from Abolsute to Pokerstars (and didnt get a bonus because of a previous $10 deposit there), and transfered over my last $50 of online BR. Now to present times......

I spent the last part of January and all of Feburary grinding the micro limits at Pokerstars, and because of this forum and what I have learned I have had great success.

I dont want to set financial goals simply becuase I feel like it makes me try to run at so many BB/100 when in fact I may just not be able to. The majority of my play right now is 10 Tabling 25Nl 6 MAX. I will move up when my BR is adequate. I also like to play in a MTT every once in a while, or a $5 or $10 HU SNG, and sometimes just a single table tourney. I tend not to play a whole lot of those simply because I get bored with them, and seem to make bad decisions. I will also play a satelite or two to one of the large sunday tourneys.

Well thats about it, I dont have stats on my month with tourneys, but I will post up my 25NL and 10NL stats so far this month.



Current BR: $724.90
Current FPP: 4125
Current VPP: 3044

[bjsaust]

Looks like a good start. Good luck with the opp!

[ProZachNation]

glad to see you doing good man, I am hoping to kick it up after I finish up some school work tomorrow. And really start playing a lot and getting back to 10nl.

[jasons0147]

So finished down for the day, but not a huge deal. Didnt get a chance to play a whole lot, simply cause Ive been neglecting to do things like laundry and stuff. Anyways, I want to say I lost three all in's tonight due to places where I was ahead, and got sucked out on either the turn or river. Ive got in the habit of writing down hands where I was either confused or didnt know what line to take so that I can post them up here. Anways, Ive included two HH that were questionable to me. It actually shows me that Im getting better in that In the first hand Im almost stacking off with TPTK, and the second hand Im folding buttom two pair. The first in which I was right, and the second hand in which Im still a little confused.


Tomorrow will be pretty cool since I have the day off and hopefully can put in a lot of hands and hopefully hit Gold level Vip. Anyways, thanks for reading this, I know I blabbler on and on, but the biggest reason for me starting this operation is so that I could organize all of my poker thoughts.

Hand 1:

Only been at the table for about a orbit or two (No stats yet), I notice this player to my left being very very agressive and taking large bluffs at several pots. I really felt this whole way that he a mid PP mostly due to his min raise on the flop, and I believed that If he would have hit he would have shoved the turn. In fact I had decided if I did get shoved on the turn I was going to fold.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB ($35.75)
UTG ($28.55)
MP ($30.10)
Button ($51.75)
Hero ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BB raises to $3, Hero raises to $8, BB calls $5.

Turn: ($18) (2 players)
Hero bets $5, BB calls $5.

River: ($28) (2 players)
Hero bets $5, BB calls $5.

Final Pot: $38

Hand 2:

Villan is 16/2/1 over 108 hands. It really took me a while to fold this hand, mostly because I figured there were several other hands that beat me. I honestly put the player on a bigger two pair than me, and looking at his PFR knew that he would not raise A3 or AJ in a unraised pot. I never took a odds calculator but I didnt think I was getting a very good price here either. Anyways, maybe it was a bad fold, but I had conviced myself it was not.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($35.15)
UTG ($6.95)
MP ($1.95)
CO ($56.40)
Button ($22)
SB ($12.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1) , , (4 players)
SB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2, UTG folds, CO folds, SB raises to $12.6, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $5

02/19/08

25NL - 2554 Hands - ($24.25)
2 4.40 180 SNG - ($8.80)
Money sent to a friend - ($5)
Mysterious Missing Money - ($1.65)

Total loss - ($39.70)

Current BR: 685.20
Current FPP: 4570
Current VPP: 3341

[jasons0147]

Its funny, I havent had any loser days in the last month and a half and ever since I start this opp I have two in a row. I played a ton of poker today, and just had a rough day overall. I don't want to go into great detail about, simply cause I dont want this all to be about bad beats and outdraws. It just seemed liked everytime I had TPTK the shortie at the table caught bottom trips and I had no choice but to call.

Anyways, enough with that, I did make Gold today which is really cool. I also played in a few FPP satelties, bubbled in the Sunday Million Satelite Rebuy tourney, and took second in the Sunday 100k satelite. It was however a nice break from playing cash and I really did enjoy it.

Tomorrow I have to go back to the grind at work, but should be able to get in a few thousand hands after work. No hands to post tonight, didnt really have any questions about any of them. Peace!

2/20/08

25NL - 5226 Hands - ($26.25)
FPP Satelites - (3140FPP)

Total Loss - ($26.25)

Current BR: 658.95
Current FPP: 2423
Current VPP: 4002

[ProZachNation]

Hand 1: I don't really like, instead of making two smallish bets on turn and river, I might make it 12 on the turn and check the river. Just a bad hand oop. I think something like KJ KTs make a lot of sense here, min raise on the draw and call, and then hit a pair on turn. Could be something like 77 too tho. I would like to see a more experienced players thought on this hand because I think it is a common situation oop.

Hand 2: I am usually calling here, seems like a weak ace makes this move a lot. Could also be a weak ace on a flush draw.

If I were you I would try to stick to just ring, I know from a yew years ago I would get semi frustrated and start playing SnGs too but it stagnated my play.

Run the losing days through poker ev and compare them to winning days etc, and try to see if it was just variance or if you were doing something different.

[jasons0147]

Run the losing days through poker ev and compare them to winning days etc, and try to see if it was just variance or if you were doing something different.

I just downloaded this program, and have never used it before. Is there a real good tutorial somewhere on the net?

[jasons0147]

I havent really had a chance to mess around with PokerEV, but I did spend a lot of time inside of pokertracker last night and dis morning. It turns out what I thought was bad beats and cooler hands was mostly just bad play on my part. I played about 600 or so hand before work and just got killed due to horrible play and dropped over 100 bucks. After work tonight Im going to just start off two tabling try to be a thinking player and not make hero calls.

On a side note, I need to stop making poker such a priority. I find myself coming home during my lunch break (I live a mile from work) and trying to make a quick buck when Im not relaxed. After my third loosing session in three days I really got to thinking, my job needs to be the most important thing to me right now because its what pays the bills. Im going to shorten my sessions so that I am more rested when I come to work, and stop playing in a rushed enviorment. I really do think that I am becoming a good ABC player, but I will digress if I turn into a zombie. Anyways, thats my confession for the day, Im going to get back to work, sell a car and get paid. Ill update tonight after my evening session.

[jasons0147]

Played really poorly dis morning, but did recognize it and get some of it back tonight. Interestingly enough in the morning I was playing my normal 13/11 game, and lost huge mostly because I was playing like TPTK was the nuts. This evening I averaged around 4 tables and was playing a 22/18 game, and was able to make the correct play quite often. I think for a little while I am going to cut down on my tables and focus more on my game. The truth is when I was playing 10NL it just didnt matter, I could just sit around and nut camp and get paid of big whenever I did. Anyways, dont really have any hands I have questions about it, just glad that I was able to recognize the leaks Ive had over the past few days. All in all today was a looser day, but tonight was the first winning session Ive had in three days which Im happy about. Thats it for now...peace!

2/21/08

25NL - 1504 Hands - ($90.85)
2 HU SNG - ($12.50) Last ones Im going to play for a while!!

Total Loss - ($103.35)

Current BR: 555.60
Current FPP: 2717
Current VPP - 4149

[jasons0147]

Ok, so I screwed up today HUGE. I made the single biggest mistake Ive ever made in Poker, and I deserved to loose my whole roll for doing what I did. Let me tell you the story......First off Ive had three days of bad play and coolers at 25NL, second: I have an infection in my tooth and Im on Loratabs and a antibiotic, third my GF told me that its either Poker or Her.

So, I came home after being to the dentist and having lunch with her and decided that it was all or nothing. So what do I do? I sit down at (2) 200 NL table, (1) 100NL table, and (1) 50NL table. It wasnt long untill I had enough to just play three table of 200NL so I did that for a while working my BR up to somewhere around 680, then lost a hand and got down 605. After being at 605 I said what the hey, I want to play a game Ill never get to play how bout some 600NL, so I sat down and played 6 hands of that of which I got very very lucky and flopped a set. I got really nervous playing that game so I went back for a few hands of 200NL eventually getting my BR to 943.50. After hitting that I shut everything down and realized just how lucky I had gotten and that I could use some of this money to pay for my dental work.

Now I know that few players on this board ever admit to playing so far out of there BR, but I feel it is necessary for me to openly confess what I did, and write out that what I did was incredibly dumb. Just to show you guys how much of heater I was on, Im going to post up PT for this session and my biggest winning hands.

The only Hand I played at 600NL, flopped pretty nicely:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP ($92.55)
CO ($359.45)
Button ($147)
SB ($518.10)
BB ($600)
Hero ($591)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $18, 1 fold, CO calls $18, 1 fold, SB calls $15, 1 fold.

Flop: ($60) , , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $48, CO calls $48, SB folds.

Turn: ($156) (2 players)
Hero bets $72, CO calls $72.

River: ($300) (2 players)
Hero bets $84, CO calls $84.

Final Pot: $468

Results in white below:
Hero has 9s Ah (three of a kind, nines).
CO doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins $468.

A very Lucky Flop at 200NL

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($218.55)
SB ($202.75)
BB ($116)
UTG ($262.40)
MP ($257.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
1 fold, MP raises to $7, Hero calls $7, 1 fold, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($22) , , (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets $20, Hero raises to $80, BB folds, MP raises to $250.9, Hero calls $131.55 (All-In).

Turn: ($445.10) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($445.10) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $445.10

Results in white below:
MP has 8h Jh (two pair, jacks and eights).
Hero has 6s 6h (full house, sixes full of twos).
Outcome: Hero wins $445.10.

Another 200NL luckbox hand. I shouldnt have called the preflop 3 bet, but I did know exactly what hand he had, they guy hadnt 3 bet me in 70 hands, which made outplaying him on the flop fairly simple. I did flop beautiful though.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Button ($82.90)
SB ($42)
BB ($117.35)
Hero ($225.05)
MP ($197)
CO ($40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $8, MP raises to $24, 4 folds, Hero calls $16.

Flop: ($51) , , (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $38, Hero raises to $201.05, MP calls $135 (All-In).

Turn: ($397) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($397) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $397

Results in white below:
Hero has 2c 2d (three of a kind, twos).
MP mucked As Ad
Outcome: Hero wins $425.05.

It just got to the point that everything seemed to easy and I could do no wrong. I mean hell, I have over 25k hands in 25NL and I think Ive flopped like this 2 maybe 3 times. The only reason I was playing so aggressivly is simply cause I thought He could be holding the Ace of Diamonds, and chances are he was, that and the fact I was playing pretty aggressive at this table.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

CO ($79.25)
Button ($146.75)
SB ($116.50)
Hero ($195.05)
UTG ($226.55)
MP ($37)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
3 folds, Button calls $2, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($6) , , (3 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises to $14, Button folds, SB calls $10.

Turn: ($34) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $20, SB calls $20.

River: ($74) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $60, SB folds.

Final Pot: $74

Results in white below:
Hero has Kd Qd (flush, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins $74.

This hand I honestly played like a Huge donkey and caught my 4 outer on the river. It was the 1st and only hand I had been dealt at 400NL. Its funny I was actually physically shaking on the river, took me a second to realize that I had the nuts.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Button ($154.90)
SB ($402)
Hero ($400)
UTG ($394.30)
MP ($80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
3 folds, SB raises to $14, Hero calls $10.

Flop: ($28) , , (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($68) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $48, SB calls $48.

River: ($164) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $120, SB folds.

Final Pot: $164

Results in white below:
Hero has Td Qh (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $164.

[jasons0147]

Did come back to reality land this evening and start playing within my limits again. Played a little bit of everything, just no more out of bankroll games. I have a grasp on things again and what I did wont happen again. Just wanted to post my end of day stats.

Little bit of everything - 1381 Hands +$286.70

Current BR: 842.30
Current FPP: 3465
Current VPP: 4523

[jasons0147]

So didnt play a whole lot of serious poker today, had buddy come over and just played some fun games. The only reason I was down for the day is because I played in (2) MTT's and a few satelites to some of tomorrows big tourneys. Other than that had a break even day in cash, and won a few STT that I played in. Anyways, tomorrow will be a much more serious day, won a FPP satelite to the Sunday 100k and I would like to take a serious shot at it. Thats about it for now, Ill be sure to post up my 100k Results tomorrow.

Mixed Micro Limits - 836 Hands +$4.16
STT, MTT, SAT - ($33.03)

Current BR: 813.43
Current FPP: 3313
Current VPP: 4622

[Jack Sawyer]

Ok, so I screwed up today HUGE. I made the single biggest mistake Ive ever made in Poker, and I deserved to loose my whole roll for doing what I did. Let me tell you the story......First off Ive had three days of bad play and coolers at 25NL, second: I have an infection in my tooth and Im on Loratabs and a antibiotic, third my GF told me that its either Poker or Her.

You were in a state of massive tilt.

As long as you understand the consequences of what you did. You sound like you realize the more realistic outcome of your endeavors



So how'd she take it ?

[jasons0147]

So how'd she take it ?

We worked out a compromize that works out well for both of us. I did realize what I had did by playing so far out of my roll. Ive worked very hard to get where Im at, and I really dont want to screw it up. Anyways, Ive been grinding turneys all day. Ill post up my results later.

[bjsaust]

Tilt like that will drive you out of poker. You got to get it in line or take a break.

[jasons0147]

Tilt like that will drive you out of poker. You got to get it in line or take a break.

Ive already come to that conlusion and realized just how dumb it was to be playing those games. I still havent been feeling well because of my tooth, so I have been sitting in front of the computer almost all day playing poker. I played some cash, but mostly just played tourneys. Played a few large tourneys, some smaller MTT's, and a lot of STT. I just wanted to have a relaxing day off, and sometimes cash games can stress me out. No big cashes to speak of, just lots of poker and some profit. I think Im done for the night, want to get some sleep so Im ready for work tomorrow.

BTW - I find decisions in tourneys rather simple, so I really dont have any hands that I have questions about . It seemed like almost everything that happened while playing today was pretty much standard.

P.S. - The sunday 100k is almost like playing a freeroll, well at least while I was in the tourney it was. I didnt play a hand for like 25 hands, get dealt AA, two people have already shoved in front of me and I just cant fold...anyways you know the rest of the story. I think I finished in something like 17,900th place...lol.

25NL - 802 Hands +25.90
Tourney Play +33.44

Current BR: 872.82
Current FPP: 3853
Current VPP: 4892

[jasons0147]

Ive had a rough couple days playing poker, and that is the biggest reason why I havent been posting. I played a ton of MTT's and have taken almost a $200 hit to my BR. I think this hand pretty much sums up what I have been going thru. This was in a Satelite to the sunday Million, Top two get seats, 3rd gets cash, and the rest get nothing. I had been playin in this tourney for almost 3 hours, amd this crap happens. I was 95% on the turn.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Button (t1530)
SB (t1430)
BB (t1410)
UTG (t1470)
MP (t1540)
Hero (t1620)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
UTG raises to t120, 1 fold, Hero raises to t360, 3 folds, UTG calls t240.

Flop: (t750) , , (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t750) (2 players)
UTG bets t1110 (All-In), Hero calls t1110.

River: (t2970) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t2970

Results in white below:
UTG has Tc Ts (full house, tens full of twos).
Hero has Qh Qs (flush, queen high).
Outcome: UTG wins t2970.

[jasons0147]

Today was a great day for so many different reasons. Number one being that I finally got my tooth pulled. It is the single greatest relief I have ever had, it has changed my mood and personality dramitcally just in the day that it has been out of my mouth. I spent most of the day at home recovering and relaxing (Pain Pills are good), and did play quite a bit of poker.

When I got home today I had decided that I was going to stop trying to donk my whole roll. From the tilt sessions to the massive run of MTT's I was finding myself just looking for games with huge payouts fast. I am learning the more and more I talk about it that the true money in Poker is from grinding, and I really think that when I put my mind to it I do that well. I put in the time and disclipine to build my roll from 50 bucks all the way to 500 playing 10NL, moved up when I was suppose to and started grinding 25NL. After a full day of making the right decisions and having a patience my roll is getting close enough that 50NL is just right around the corner. I do have some short sessions in 50NL, jus trying to learn that game, and it doesnt seem to be much different than 25NL.

Anways, I feel happy to report some progress and that things are moving in the right direction. On the downside, I have two days left in my pay period at work to move some medal over the curb or I wont have much of a paycheck, which could result in me having to withdraw from my roll, which I really dont want to do. Well, that about it for today, I have a long day ahead of me tomorrow and need to get some rest.

Current BR: 909.70
Current FPP: 5373
Current VPP: 6007

[jasons0147]

Tonight was an interesting night for me. It was kind of two fold.

First: I had a horrible night in terms of winrate, I had really bad run of cards and dont want to post them because I dont wany my operation to be about my bad beats.

Second: I was really proud of myself for excersing discipline and knowing when to quit. This is huge for me, and is a big deal in me devolping as a player.

Since my bankroll was over 900 bucks I figured that gave me 18 BI's for 50NL and it would be ok for me to take a shot. I gave myself a 4 BI stop loss and Im glad I did. I lost over 130 bucks tonight playing 50NL, stepped down from 50NL when I realized I was running bad and lost another 80 or so dollars there. I finally realized that this was not going to be a winning session and decided to shut it down for the night.

Heres the thing, for a micro stakes player I play a ton of poker and have over 60k hands logged this month. I realize that i will have plenty of loser days, and If i could win every session I ever played that I wouldnt need a real job. Since I post so often it looks like I have a lot of bad nights, but it is all an average and I know this. I will still finish the month out at a good winrate and I have no problem with dropping a few BI from a bad session.

Not much else to say, but it would be nice if someone would reply to my thread, its just nice to know your being heard

Also, I cant figure out where Im missing money at. I kept track of what tourneys I played in and went in Poker Tracker and filtered in the sessions I have played in since I last posted what my bankroll is and I cant find the difference in money. This is really weird and i have no clue what it could be caused by.

2/28/08

50NL - 1695 Hands - ($129.65)
25NL - 476 Hands - ($84.45)
$3R Tourney - ($6.30)
$3.30 Tripple Shotout - (3.30)

MISSING MONEY - ($27.55)

Current BR: 658.55
Current FPP: 6507
Current VPP: 6574

[ProZachNation]

I have been watching your operation, I think you possess one thing a lot of people trying to grind out low limits don't. The ability to put in a lot of hands and proper expectations/attitude.

[wyte]

Nice Opp, and i think u are right about the financial part of it because thats the view i take...i log wins/losses but its not that important to me...if I lose i just paid for a good solid school of hard knocks poker lesson, if I win it shows me that all the studying and playing and meditation, repeat are paying off and that i'm on the road to poker greatness...and my G/F pulls the same thing...until i grind out a good win, lmao

[jasons0147]

Still running fairly bad, but session are very controlled which Im plent happy about. I realize that variance does happen and its really no big deal. Dont have much else to say, have to concentrate on my real job.

25NL - 1706 Hands - ($36.00)

Current BR: $622.55
Current FPP: 7019
Current VPP: Reset to 6

Feburary Profit: ($102.35)
Feburary Hands: 64,151

[jasons0147]

Im really tired so I dont feel like posting up my bankr oll and hand stats. Didnt have a bad day, played about 2k hands. Ive decided this month that Im going to make platnium star, thats about it for now. Im going to play in sunday 100k, I would really like to have a nice finish in that tourney.

[daven]

Since my bankroll was over 900 bucks I figured that gave me 18 BI's for 50NL and it would be ok for me to take a shot. I gave myself a 4 BI stop loss and Im glad I did

brave, read spoon's thoughts on bankroll and progression in stakes. I'd personally recommend more like 25++buyins before taking a shot. Anyway, good work on stopping with the 4BI stop loss - the tooth/girlfriend resolution sounds like it's done wonders for your tilting.

As for 60k hands - hope you're getting decent rakeback or bonus or something!!!
Good luck with the grind (from a fellow grinder...)

What's the 100k buyin? did you sat. into it? otherwise it's kinda rough on your roll - hope you win the thing cos then it won't matter!

[jasons0147]

As for 60k hands - hope you're getting decent rakeback or bonus or something!!!
Good luck with the grind (from a fellow grinder...)

What's the 100k buyin? did you sat. into it? otherwise it's kinda rough on your roll - hope you win the thing cos then it won't matter!

Im not getting a rakeback or a bonus, since I cant find a US site that Im not already registered for that has a decent amount of player on it. I think the only site that I could play on that has rakeback and bonus would be vegaspoke 24/7 which is an absolute skin, but game selection sucks I only know because I played on absolute for a very long time and would play games I wasnt suppose to simply becuase the games I wanted to play wasnt available.

The sunday 100K on stars is a $10 BI tourney, and usally has 20k players its kind of dumb to buy into that tourney because it really plays like a freeroll for the first 18k players. Pokerstars has 10 person 70FPP satelites to that tourney every week and I have won a satelite everytime I have ever tried.

If you can think of a site that would give me rakeback and a bonus that would be great, heres the sites I already have an account on.

FullTilt
Pokerstars
Absolute
Ultimate Bet

My only requirements is that there is enough 6 MAX tables upon in 25NL so that I can play 8 tables.

And as far as the shot at 50NL, I probably wont be playing it any more till my Bankroll reaches in the neighborhood of 1300. I wanted to my shot and thats exactly what I did, I will now wait untill my Bankroll is where it needs to be and then kill that game.

[jasons0147]

I played a ton today, again didnt do well in the sunday 100k and dont even remember the hand that took me out. I really dont pay much attention to that tourney, its so big and you have to have a giant stack just to get in the money so you have to make plays early to survive. Other than that, I just had a rough day. Im going to be analyzing my game some and find out what Im doing wrong. I think alot of it has to do with me calling with second best hands. These are both just from today.





Bankroll is somewhere in the upper 500's. I think Im going to use 5k FPP's to buy a bonus so I can get it shot back up. I will probably hit my goal of getting Platinum Star this month. Im already at 931 VPP's.

[jasons0147]

After sundays huge session of almost break even poker, i decided to take the last couple days and evalulate my game. Read some Sklansky material and that helped me a ton, also read Barry Greensteins Aces on the river, and it really put a lot in my head about bankroll mgmnt. Anyways sat down tonight and just played like 300 hands and won 4 BI's. Im adapating some new theorys into my game, dropping tables, making reads, and giving players ranges. Anyways, Im tired from a long day of work and Im going to head to sleep.

Current BR: 652.89
Current FPP: 7541
Current VPP: 1052
Hands For Month: 8,792

[jasons0147]

So it was pretty cool day of poker and I feel like I got a lot accomplished. First I bought a $50 bonus with some of my FPP's so I can hopefully give my bankroll a free boost. I also used 500 Fpp's to start playing in the WSOP steps, Ive alredy beat out step 1 and step 2. From what I understand and read the last 4 steps are the toughest, but I guess Ill see how it goes. Going to the WSOP is a dream of mine and it would be unbelievable if I could go all the way and win myself a package. Like I say it is a dream, and Im already realizing how much work it will take to grind my way thru the steps. Ive already decided that I will not be spending any money out of my BR to buy into any WSOP satelites, only FPP's.

Well thats about it, I have to be to work in about an hour and just wanted to post a little update on how things are going. I posted a few hands in the shorthanded forum since they seem to get more attention there. I also had mentioned in an earlier post that I would really like to hit platnium star, which may or may not happen, a lot of it is going to depend on whether or not I have the BR to move up to 50NL later in the month. I have made it a point to practice good BR management since my tilt episode and Ive been doing a good job, I refuse to try an move up just to hit a new status level.

Current BR: 671.84
Current FPP: 2123
Current VPP: 1343
$50 Bonus: 253 of 350 FPP cleared
Hands For Month: 11,003

[jasons0147]

Haven't played much poker at all over the last few days and its not really a bad thing. Ive been focusing on work and other important things in life. I will likely spend sunday and next wednesday grinding it away and any other time where I have enough time to start a nice session. I kind of feel like Ive accomplished a lot by not playing for that last few days and focusing on whats really important. Im sure I will find plenty of time to grind away in the next few days. Thats all for now....Peace!

[jasons0147]

Played the most I have in a couple nights and tried to get a few thousand hands in. Cleared my bonus, and stayed away from any tough spots. Was having a great session tonight with the exception of one hand that just made me laugh and shut down my tables for the night. Im not going to play the sunday 100k tomorrow mostly because that tourney frustrates me and I rather just grind away at cash games.

Im posting the hand below mostly for myself and to discuss openly having reads on players. My notes on him over 200 hands or so say something to the effect of "treats over pairs like the nuts regardless of board". You see 6 months ago I would have posted this hand in the bad beat forum and called the guy a donkey and said how dumb he was for calling here and sucking out on my. Since Im starting to devlop Im able to look at the hand and pat myself on the back for making a great read on someone and making the right play. Hands like this are the reason that I have a bankroll, players like this are the reason I eat lunch for free

Villan is 68/7. His range here is the same as every other horrible player like him in this spot 77-TT and any two spades. He just doesnt have a 6 or a 2 here, players like this try and slow play those cards and then open shove on the river. I cant think of a different play besides shoving on the flop, I know he will call with everything in his range and I have them all beat plus I have a uber excellent read on him.....nice river

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Button ($16.50)
SB ($31.25)
BB ($62.45)
UTG ($11.70)
Hero ($29.60)
CO ($14.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) , , (2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $6, Hero raises to $28.6, BB calls $22.60.

Turn: ($59.30) (2 players)

River: ($59.30) (2 players)

Final Pot: $59.30

Results in white below:
BB has 8h 8d (full house, eights full of sixes).
Hero has Qd Qc (two pair, queens and sixes).
Outcome: BB wins $59.30.


Current BR: 762.24
Current FPP: 2771
Current VPP: 1667
Hands For Month: 13,557

[jasons0147]

Blah Blah Blah. Poker can be frustrating. Put in a bunch of hands and just couldnt seem to get ahead. The good news is that Im having a great month at work, which is really important to me. I much rather be doing well at my job instead of doing well at Poker. Part of the reason for being down is because of me trying some new things, and Ive been getting an education. I plan to just keep grinding away for the rest of the month and building my bankroll.

Current BR: 722.05
Current FPP: 3737
Current VPP: 2150
Hands For Month: 17,705

[daven]

If you can think of a site that would give me rakeback and a bonus that would be great, heres the sites I already have an account on.

you could have a look at one of the prima skins - I play purple but I don't think that works for US players, check rtr - unibet maybe? but I think you have to rake a bunch for it to be worthwhile, and no deposit bonus that I know of... There aren't loads of tables there all the time, but what there is normally plays 6-max. Take a look anyway. Like you said, vegas is the other obvious option.

I'll let you know if I think of something better

also, i recommend taking a look at the free FTR vids if you haven't already- then imagine you're filming one when you play = really think through spots. It's working wonders.
Good luck!

[jasons0147]

you could have a look at one of the prima skins - I play purple but I don't think that works for US players, check rtr - unibet maybe? but I think you have to rake a bunch for it to be worthwhile, and no deposit bonus that I know of... There aren't loads of tables there all the time, but what there is normally plays 6-max. Take a look anyway. Like you said, vegas is the other obvious option.

Everytime I look at these other sites and there rakeback and bonus offers it just seems like Ill never clear it playing 25NL. Granted I do intend on moving up in limits eventually but playing at a site such as stars gives me the chance to table select. Plus with being able to buy bonuses on stars I think It works out to something like 35% rakeback.

also, i recommend taking a look at the free FTR vids if you haven't already

I have watched every single video that is on FTR, in fact Ive watched Spenda's video where he two tables 25NL three times and I feel like I pick up on something every single time.

Today was an ok day, didnt play a whole lot of winning poker but was getting some cold cards so Im plenty happy that I finished in the positive. Ive been trying very hard to only play 25NL and Ive been doing a great job. When of my biggest problems is that I get bored and start playing tourneys or Omaha or HU, whatever. Ive stayed away from those games and its really been helping my bankroll. Tomorrow is my day off and I will be playing a ton of poker. I would really like to play 60k hands this month and after tomorrow I should be on target. Ive also cracked the 4k mark on FPP's so when I get to 5k I will buy another bonus. Thats about it for now, I need to get some sleep I had a long day at work.

Current BR: 731.80
Current FPP: 4165
Current VPP: 2364
Hands For Month: 19458

[jasons0147]

Played quite a bit today and really played pretty great I thought. Stayed out of most tough spots and stayed fairly profitable. Nothing to really talk about in general, just seemed like I was starting to get a lot of the things that I had been talking about and reading about in some of the SHNL post. Also needed some extra cash so I had to withdraw a $100 bucks from my BR.

Money Withdrawn: 100
Current BR: 718.70
Current FPP: 4667
Current VPP: 2615
Hands For Month: 21,661

[jasons0147]

Short session tonight, but very profitable. Just wanted to drop a quick post to update my bankroll stats.

Total Money Withdrawn: 100
Current BR: 791.12
Current FPP: 4871
Current VPP: 2717
Hands For Month: 22,609

[jasons0147]

Played a little over the weekend. Decideded this morning that I would like to start getting rakeback and clearing a bonus. So I am transferring ove $500 to vegas poker24/7 and getting 30% rakeback. I figure this month alone I have payed almost 500 in rake at pokerstars, and thats only over 25k hands. So, that will just be an extra 300 a month to my roll. I have to wait 72 hours for the money to clear epassporte so it will be a few days before I post.

[bet169]

"Hands For Month: 22,609"
wow... i am new in here.. but you play an average around 740 hands per day.. pretty impressive... guys.. how much u earn around per month in poker?

[jasons0147]

So couldnt get vegaspoker247 cashier to work got frustrated, and went to look for another site with rakeback and a bonus. Got everything set up there, played 150 hands lost 20 bucks and got the hell off that site. I understand how great it is for a micro limit grinder like myself to be getting rakeback and a bonus, but if the software is going to be as horrible as it is as cake, well then I guess I dont get the freebies. So I moved my whole roll back over to pokerstars, the place I call home, and have no intentions of leaving again. Some things I hated about Cake:

Not Multitable Friendly (No Resizing, adjusting tables)
Software has horrible LAG
Cards are hard to see
Cant use HUD or Ptracker
Games really arent that great

Im sure I would have found more things I didnt like if I had stayed there much longer, just had to get off that site before it put me on tilt. Meanwhile Im going to keep grinding on Pokertracker and try to stick with just 25NL untill Im rolled for 50NL.

As far as the question about Number of Hands and winrate. I have found necessary to put in a ton of hands to make any kind of decent money. Currently I am averaging about 4BB/100 hands. It is my goal to play 2k hands a day, but lately with all that I have had going on it just hasnt been possible.

[jasons0147]

So I was noticing as I read back thru this opp that a lot of what I have written has been about my stats and winning, and the rest of it about bad beats. So from here on out I will not post up a hand to talk about a bad beat, If I do post hand that is a beat I will post it with the intentions of finding out what I could do different. Also, from here on out I am not going to update this post with what my roll is, this is only important to myself escpically since I have started playing on different sites and transferring money to epassporte. I will move up when ready and move back down if needed.

Im also going to start working on other aspects of my game. I am going try and play 1 or 2 HU SNG's a day to work on my HU play. I may also start to play some full ring. Besides that I plan on reading lots of post, and maybe even getting a membership to a site like cardrunners. I have realized that there is a lot of money to be made in this game, but I need to have patience in order to make it. I need to devolp myself as a player and get better if I plan on moving up and beating this game at a decent win rate.

I work in a business in that the more you learn, the more you practice, the more people you touch the more sucessfull you can be. Poker is not all that different, it is a game where I should be learing and finding ways to get better. I need to learn how to play against all players, everyone from the rock 10/9 reg to loose passive 60/15, funny thing is that I tend to loose money to both types of players.

So, there you have it a new outlook, a new respect, and hopefully a new better player.

[jasons0147]

Didnt play much poker this weekend, but the poker I did play was great. Right now Im playing in a few low buyin MTT's and hopefully can get a good finish in one of them. It seems that my sessions have been shorter, espically since I have been pretty busy at work and havent had the time to put in the 3k hand sessions I use to. Still grinding out 25NL, and chance are that I will stay there for a while. I would like to have quite a few BI's before I decide to move up.

[ChrisBCritter]

Hi Jason. Just read through your operation. Quite the rollercoaster you got going here!

It looks like you've got your tilt monster under control for now, I hope it stays that way!

You've got some pretty TAGG stats, but it looks like you're mostly playing 6-max? The blinds have got to be killing you there...
What is your normal # of tables? FR or 6-max?
Can you make an EV graph for your Entire DB? (maybe don't include your tilt session)
What are your Goals for this operation? They don't seem to be clearly defined!
Are you still playing at PokerStars? Or did you find a good RB deal at another site?

From the relatively small sample that you posted with your EV graph, It appears that you are losing quite a bit of money in non-showdown pots. Your W$SD at 61 is pretty high, and looking at your PFR and Aggression factor, it looks like that when you find a hand to play, you play it good and hard PF and on the flop, but maybe fold a little too much when somebody plays back at you on the turn or river.

It looks like you're heading in the right direction not focusing on the Bad beats! Let's see some more tough decision hands regardless of the outcomes! (Also meaning the ones you folded, but weren't sure whether or not that was a good fold...)

GL at the tables, Don't let me catch up to you!

[jasons0147]

Chris thanks for taking such an interest, and Im actually glad that you asked for some of the things that you did because they are all things I need to do.

It looks like you've got your tilt monster under control for now, I hope it stays that way!

I have and wont have that problem again, I made my mistake and I really think that publicly posting it helped me a lot.

You've got some pretty TAGG stats, but it looks like you're mostly playing 6-max? The blinds have got to be killing you there...
What is your normal # of tables? FR or 6-max?

I do play very TAGG, and play 6 MAX almost exclusivley. I am typically playing between 6-8 tables. I feel that my aggressive preflop and flop play make up for my TAGG styly in 6 MAX. I have played FR before but I would pretty much have to play 16 tables in order to not be bored and I dont feel like I am ready for that.

What are your Goals for this operation? They don't seem to be clearly defined!

This operation was really designed as a place for me to express my thoughts about poker and really give myself a place to organize everything poker related.

Are you still playing at PokerStars? Or did you find a good RB deal at another site?

Yea, still playing at Pokerstars. I cant find another site that I like playing at. Ive tried a few and it seems that because of the software and not being able to use HUD puts me on tilt. With me always hitting goldstar and with being able to buy bonuses and works out to be not that bad of a deal. Plus table selection/availability is great at pokerstars.

Can you make an EV graph for your Entire DB?

This is everyhand I have played in 25NL

Let's see some more tough decision hands regardless of the outcomes! (Also meaning the ones you folded, but weren't sure whether or not that was a good fold...)

Ask and you shall recieve....

Hand 1

Villan is 25/4 over 150 Hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Button ($7.60)
SB ($3.60)
BB ($7.65)
Hero ($26.15)
MP ($37.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $1, MP calls $1, 3 folds.

Flop: ($2.35) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $2.25, MP calls $2.25.

Turn: ($6.85) (2 players)
Hero bets $6, MP calls $6.

River: ($18.85) (2 players)
Hero bets $16.9 (All-In), MP calls $16.90.

Final Pot: $52.65

Hand 2

Villan is 60/14 over 60 Hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($25.15)
BB ($17.60)
UTG ($53.25)
MP ($23.45)
Button ($24.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, MP calls $1.

Flop: ($2.75) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $2.5, MP calls $2.50.

Turn: ($7.75) (2 players)
Hero bets $2.5, MP raises to $6.75, Hero calls $4.25.

River: ($21.25) (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $5.5, Hero raises to $14.65, MP calls $7.45 (All-In).

Final Pot: $47.15

Hand 3

Villan is 12/12 over 50 Hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Button ($25)
Hero ($24.05)
BB ($15.25)
UTG ($10.10)
MP ($31.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
2 folds, Button raises to $1, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.25) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button calls $2.

Turn: ($6.25) (2 players)
Hero bets $4, Button raises to $11, Hero raises to $21.05, Button calls $10.05.

River: ($48.35) (2 players)

Final Pot: $48.35

Hand 4

SB is 77/0 over 85 Hands
HJ is 38/5 over 120 Hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($25.35)
SB ($11.05)
BB ($29.30)
UTG ($25.95)
MP ($38.60)
CO ($31.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, SB calls $1.15, 1 fold, MP calls $1.

Flop: ($4) , , (3 players)
SB bets $0.75, MP calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.75.

Turn: ($6.25) (3 players)
SB bets $1, MP calls $1, Hero calls $1.

River: ($9.25) (3 players)
SB bets $1.5, MP calls $1.50, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $12.25

Hand 5

Villan is 54/0 over 80 Hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

SB ($8)
BB ($27.50)
UTG ($32.95)
MP ($26.50)
Hero ($42.70)
Button ($27.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BB calls $1, MP calls $1.

Flop: ($3.85) , , (3 players)
BB bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2.75, MP folds.

Turn: ($10.10) (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7, BB calls $7.

River: ($24.10) (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $24.10

Hand 6

Villan is 25/10 over 65 Hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Button ($28.30)
SB ($16.20)
Hero ($26.60)
UTG ($41.75)
MP ($29.65)
CO ($31.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
UTG raises to $1, 2 folds, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.90, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4) , , (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, UTG folds, Button calls $4, SB folds.

Turn: ($12) (2 players)
Hero bets $10, Button calls $10.

River: ($32) (2 players)
Hero bets $11.6 (All-In), Button folds.

Final Pot: $32

Hand 7

Villand is 44/2 over 79 Hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP ($18.35)
Button ($19.95)
SB ($26.35)
Hero ($26.75)
UTG ($5.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
2 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.75) , , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, Button calls $0.75, SB folds.

Turn: ($2.25) (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button calls $2.

River: ($6.25) (2 players)
Hero bets $4, Button raises to $8, Hero calls $4.

Final Pot: $22.25

Hand 8

Villan is 56/27 over 112 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Button ($42.50)
SB ($19.05)
BB ($30.30)
UTG ($14.65)
MP ($21.90)
Hero ($37.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, Button calls $1.25, 1 fold, BB calls $1, MP folds.

Flop: ($4.10) , , (3 players)
BB bets $1, Hero raises to $3, Button folds, BB calls $2.

Turn: ($10.10) (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4.

River: ($18.10) (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $18.10

Hand 9

No Reads on Villan

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB ($29.20)
UTG ($9.35)
Hero ($24.30)
CO ($11.15)
Button ($12.95)
SB ($42.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.25) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2.

Turn: ($6.25) (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB raises to $10, Hero raises to $21.3, SB calls $11.30.

River: ($48.85) (2 players)

Final Pot: $48.85

Hand 10

Villan is 83/18 over 92 Hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($32.20)
MP ($18.80)
Button ($32.20)
SB ($26.20)
BB ($13.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) , , (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, Button raises to $7, BB folds, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($17.10) (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $11, Hero raises to $24.2, Button calls $13.20 (All-In).

River: ($0) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $41.30

First 5 Hands are loosers, last 5 hands are winners. I cant write anymore my girlfriend is moaning my name.

[ChrisBCritter]

Damn, that's one hell of a response

I do play very TAGG, and play 6 MAX almost exclusivley. I am typically playing between 6-8 tables. I feel that my aggressive preflop and flop play make up for my TAGG styly in 6 MAX. I have played FR before but I would pretty much have to play 16 tables in order to not be bored and I dont feel like I am ready for that.

If it is working for you, then keep at it. Hmmm, easily bored huh? For some reason this is sticking out to me, but I can't put a finger on why this should be focused on.

Yea, still playing at PokerStars. I cant find another site that I like playing at. Ive tried a few and it seems that because of the software and not being able to use HUD puts me on tilt. With me always hitting goldstar and with being able to buy bonuses and works out to be not that bad of a deal. Plus table selection/availability is great at PokerStars.

I'll have to agree here. PokerStars is the king.

This is everyhand I have played in 25NL

First things first, you're a winning player! That's good and definitely something to build off of.
I'd be interested to see your stats for the first 20K hands, and then the stats for the rest. Something happened there, and you started folding more, and/or bluffing less. I'm still learning to interpret these graphs, but I have a good idea that you're losing a good chunk of money in Non-showdown pots right now, meaning you're folding too much.

Ask and you shall recieve....

Ok, now for the fun stuff, thanks for not including results.

1. Standard. Villians range includes TP, flush draws and the like. Sometimes you can check/call the river to induce a bluff.
2. I don't like this hand, 60 hands on villian gives an impression, but thats not good enough for me. PF looks good, C-bet looks good, but the turn sucks. You bet weakly like you wanted to induce a bluff, but your hand is not strong enough here to take the hit. bet 4.5-5 here, likely fold to a raise. River is spew. Villian came alive when the A hit the turn, so I put a nut flush draw strongly in his range, and look, he keeps betting when the flush draw hit the river. Check/fold, you have a 1 pair hand, that is very rarely worth going this far with.
3. Uber-standard. If villian has TT or J9 gg, but there is nothing you can do here. I never get away from his turn raise here.
4. Also very standard. Sometimes I like to raise the flop in position here and try to take it down, but with these two stations, I'd also rather call and hope for the OESD to complete. River fold is ok, but at the same time, your pot odds are SO good here, and the betting has been SO weak, that you might see two idiots show AQ here. I think I call here. If they slow played a monster, their loss...
5. Standard. Every street looks good
6. Wow. What is this? PF is fine, but then you're OOP and try to take down the pot on the flop. Ok, no problem there. Obviously Villian is loose, so it's going to get expensive to try and bluff him out, so I check/fold the turn. If villian was much tighter (say < 14/10 or so) I could see pulling the 2nd and third trigger MAYBE, but you're asking for huge variance if you keep taking these lines with weak hands.
7. Standard. I like every street. Thankyou for not folding the river.
8. Tricky villian with those stats. Kinda loose raise from the CO? I thought you were tight? I play the flop harder than that with the flush draw out there, raise to 5.50 or 6. Ugly turn. I probably check behind, and call a moderate bet on the river. What would you do with a Check/raise here on the turn?
9. Standard. Looks like a split pot to me. I don't see any way to get away from this one. Unfortunate if he also had the FD...
10. Pretty standard against someone that loose. NH. Villian shows A-rag a lot here.

Oh, so you did include results at the end. Didn't see that.

So, after looking at these, I think I've hit on why the boredom statement stuck out to me. You play pretty tight for the most part, but then for inexplicable reasons, you get bored, and impatient and start taking a couple hands much farther than "normal". This is probably costing you money. My advice would be that if you feel yourself getting bored, and uninterested, STOP YOUR SESSION. Take a break, I mean jeez, your girlfriend is MOANING YOUR NAME!

[jasons0147]

Chris I think youve found something. It looks as I started to spew after those first 20k hands. Help me plug this leak and you will be my new best friend. You think I should post this in the SHNL forum to? Things seem to get a lot of attention there.

First 23k Hands

First 23k Hands Position Stats

Last 40k Hands

Last 40k Hands Position Stats

[ChrisBCritter]

Chris I think youve found something. It looks as I started to spew after those first 20k hands. Help me plug this leak and you will be my new best friend. You think I should post this in the SHNL forum to? Things seem to get a lot of attention there.

Couldn't hurt. There's definitely something subtle going on here, maybe someone else has better insight than me! Your leak (if there is one) is not obvious from the stats like I had hoped. At about what point did you have your "tilt session"?

The most obvious thing from the stats are that you loosened up slightly, but also stayed aggressive with your new opening hands. Your aggression Pre-flop and on the flop went up slightly, while your turn and river aggression went down slightly. These aren't giving us enough information alone, but along with your boredom statement and my comments above, I think it's safe to say that you're getting bored and deciding to go and bluff a couple hands to "get something started". And then when your PFR and C-bet are getting called, you are a little more reluctant (understandably) to pull that 2nd and 3rd trigger with not only your complete bluffs, but also probably holding back when you've missed with AQo or something. Maybe start mixing in some 2nd barrels in there to bring up your non-showdown win%?

Another stat that seems to stick out to me is your UTG stats. the VPIP/PFR stays almost the same, but you are getting to ShowDown a lot more in the last 40K, and losing. A hypothesis for this is that you're getting attached and hanging on to 77-QQ for too long, and probably making hero calls a little too often. At this level, if a villian is betting pretty hard for more than one street, it's NOT going to be a bluff the majority of the time. It also could be just a bad run of negative variance here. Any questionable call downs (or big folds) from UTG that you'd like to share?

[jasons0147]

At about what point did you have your "tilt session"?

I think you may be on to something, Tilt session happened the 22nd of Feburary. The First stats I posted were from the 1st of the year to the 20th of Feburary and the second set of stats I posted were from the 21st of Feburary to present.

Ill post up some UTG hands later on tonight, but I think you may be right about the 77-QQ thing except for I think it may be something like 99-QQ and then the hand that I probably play the worse out of all AK.

[ChrisBCritter]

Interesting! Any possiblility that this may be a "Value of Money" issue then? (i.e. I have played at 600NL, this $25 doesn't mean much, time for a hero call!)

Looking forward to seeing the UTG hands!

[jasons0147]

Interesting! Any possiblility that this may be a "Value of Money" issue then? (i.e. I have played at 600NL, this $25 doesn't mean much, time for a hero call!)

I think this could be it for sure, Im getting back to working on my game and not paying as much attention to the limits Im playing at.

Looking forward to seeing the UTG hands!

Sorry I havent been able to do this, end of the month is big for me at work so I have to stay focused there, needless to say I havent been playing much poker and havent had much time to sit in front of the computer. Lately Ive been using my time on the computer to educate myself on poker instead of trying to put in a 1k hands. It will probably be next week sometime before I get a chance to go thru those hands.

[jasons0147]

Chris I got to thank you for helping me find some pretty big leaks in my game. I havent been playing a ton lately but the sessions I have had late at night have been very profitable thanks to a better way of thinking. I dont know if you caught the post in the SHNL forum, but everyone seemed to like my new stats more than my old ones. My biggest problem right now is Blind Stealing and having a lack of aggression on later streets.

This is where I am now looking for spots to two barrel in, and stop chasing draws that wont pay me off. I really like the fact that I am starting to understand my game and actually have reasons for doing certain things instead of just doing them.

[jasons0147]

Chris this is all the 25NL I have played since my charts that and stats that I posted. I ran the numbers from the 27th. Im liking my new play a little bit more

[ChrisBCritter]

Wow, nice little heater you got going on there! You REALLY ramped up your aggression there! I like it! 6-max is certainly the place for that. Be wary of the doom switch though! As aggressive as you're being it'll be very easy to get attached to 1-pair hands...

[badgers]

I dont think lack of aggression on later streets is really an issue. Awesome heater

[jasons0147]

I dont think lack of aggression on later streets is really an issue. Awesome heater

Any reason why you think that lack of aggression on later streets is not an issue?

[badgers]

Turn AF 2.6 River AF 3.3 that looks pretty high! unless you just had hands everytime...?

[jasons0147]

Oh, I thought you were referring to ther 40k hand stretch where I played like crap. Just for a comparsion on how Ive tried to change my game, scroll up and look at my stats for those 40k hands and scroll back down and look at the 1700 I just played.

In the last 1700 Hands, ATT to steal went up, Aggression went up, and my range went up. Which were all things that I needed to work on. Just hope I can keep up the pace for a while.

[jasons0147]

Im at work right now so I can post up my March Graphs and stats, but Ill get around to it. I was orignally going to post up some UTG hands I was having problems with but thanks to a couple of the guys in the SHNL forum I was able to plug some leaks. I plan for april to be a very profitable month, and game a limit selection is going to much more important to me. Being that tomorrow is my day off I would like to put in a lot of poker. Here are my goals for tomorrow:

Play 4k Hands of 6Max 25NL
Play (2) $4.40 180 Man SNG's
Play the following Tourneys:

10:00 A.M - $8.80R Max 4 BI's
12:15 P.M. - $11.00
2:00 P.M. - $11.00
2:15 P.M. - $3.30R Max 4 BI's
3:00 P.M. - $5.50
3:15 P.M. - $11.00

Part of the reason for me listing what tourneys I will be playing in so that I can track the amount of money I am spending on BI's and my winrate. I dont use Pokertracker for tourneys because I always forget to update them.

[jasons0147]

Cant sleep so Ive been playing thru the night, will probably keep going to sometime in the morning. Ill post up results of my nightly session later today.

So Far Ive shortstacked some 50NL HU Ran Hot and Quit
Always Kept 8 Tables open of 25NL, and just closed a couple when I was playing tourneys.
Ive also played a few tourneys:

WSOP Step 3(Already Won Ticket) - Took First!!!! First Hand is the Bad Beat that made it all possible http://www.flopturnriver.com/Online-...ment-3173.html
$5.50 Full Ring MTT NLH Turbo (1300 Players) - Placed out of the money in 435th Place
$5.50 45Man Sat to Sunday Warm Up - Placed out of the money in 17th
$2.20 216Man Sat to Sunday Million - Placed out of the money in 98th

[ChrisBCritter]

Why shortstacking? On top of that why HU? AND on top of THAT, WHY 50NL? I don't see this as a good idea Jason, until your BR can support it, stay away. Congratulations on running hot, but stop it right now.

You got REALLY lucky in that Tournament. Not just the first hand (WTF are you doing there anyways?) but also the TT hand later on (THAT was lucky my friend) Also, HU is missing from the history there. Other than those two hands, (Albeit, you couldn't get away from the TT for sure) it looks like you played it solidly enough (i.e. folding a lot, winning the two street bingo a lot) In general, I wouldn't really recommend the mixing of Cash and Donkaments at the same time, sure they are both poker, but they require different strategies, and it's already late at night, so your decicions may be hampered by being tired also. If it works for you and you can easily switch your strategies back and forth, then go for it.

GL today with your tournaments (assuming you aren't sleeping through them right now) and please stay away from $50NL until your BR is AT LEAST $1250(25 BIs). If you find yourself getting bored, step away, go play Grand Theft Auto or something...

[jasons0147]

Ive been wanting to work on my HU game for a quite a while, the reason being that I get myself in spots playing 6 Max and dont know how to handle certain situations and I feel that HU play is good training. The whole shortstacking thing isnt really that big of deal, all I do is just find a table where somebody else has sat down with half stack as well, when I double up Im usally done unless opp is uber fish. Since my tilt session playing big limits a few months ago I have become very good at giving myself a stop loss, which in HU play would be 2 half BI's for Me. Never got there, which is good.

I have no problem playing cash and tourney at the same time, I just close down most of my cash games when I get deep in a tourney. As far as the WSOP Step, I would really like some advice as to what I should be doing in step 4 different than what I did different in that tourney. I know I had some spots where I played a little fishy, but thats whay I posted the tourney, so that I could be told how to play better.

I didnt get a chance to play all the tourneys I wanted to play, but I'll still hit a couple that looked pretty good. Didnt end up going to sleep till about 7:30 this morning, so I just woke up a few months ago. Here is what I have played in and there results:

$4.40 180Man SNG - Took 6th Place for $36
$4.40 180Man SNG - Finished out of the money in 63rd place
$11.00 Daily Fifteen Grand(3923 Players) - Finished out of the money in 2232nd place
$3.30R (3624 Players) - Finished out of the money in 1327th
$2.20 216Man Sat to Sunday Million - Finished out of the money in 51st
$11 MTT(1173 Players) - Finished out of the money in 139th

Total Spent on Tourneys: $39.60
Total Winnings: $36.00
Net Negative Profit: -3.60

And I created myself a new talkingapes operation to track my progress to 50NL. Ive actually been rolled for it at one point in time last month, but had to withdraw money. Anways, hopefully I will never look back!!!

[ChrisBCritter]

Hi Jason, just looking for an update!

Ive been wanting to work on my HU game for a quite a while... The whole shortstacking thing isnt really that big of deal...I have become very good at giving myself a stop loss, which in HU play would be 2 half BI's for Me.

I still don't like this mindset. Give yourself an opportunity to learn without the very small 2 buyin stoploss. This just seems ridiculous to me. 2BI can happen in a flash...especially when you are playing at a higher limit! Move down, not up!

I have no problem playing cash and tourney at the same time...I would really like some advice as to what I should be doing in step 4 different than what I did different in that tourney.

Except for the first hand (Still WTF) there's not much advice to give, it looked pretty solid.

...Didnt end up going to sleep till about 7:30 this morning, so I just woke up a few months ago.

LOL

[Muzzard]

Yo, You put so many hands in at 25NL this/last month didn't you. How come your roll is not sufficiently bigger?