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5/10 - weird preflop spot - what's our calling range?

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    Default 5/10 - weird preflop spot - what's our calling range?

    -UTG+1 is a pretty uncreative player overall, and has shown to be pretty passive in the past. My numbers on him long term are 19/9ish, but today he's running around 28/13
    -SB is 19/17 and pretty aggressive. He has 3-bet me a few times already today and probably views me as pretty aggressive today
    -SB probably views me as stealing here so his 3-betting range (re-steal range) could be pretty wide, but I have no idea what the over-limp and then raise from UTG+1 means
    -what should my calling/shoving range be here?

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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $848.02
    UTG+1: $894.50
    CO: $985
    Hero: $1322
    SB: $1276.75
    BB: $1377

    Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with X X
    UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $68, SB raises to $175, 2 folds, UTG+1 raises to $894.50 and is all-in, Hero ??
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    fold fold fold

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    AA KK
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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    get out of jail free + visa platinum

    edit : only if suited
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    nice avatar alex
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    AA KK
    I've given a lot of respect to UTG limps before, but am I really supposed to give so much respect to an UTG limp and then UTG+1 limps and THEN raises?

    I guess I could have been overthinking things. My logic was that if I was UTG+1, I would perceive the button raise as a pure steal, and then SB's 3-bet (from an aggro player) as a re-steal. Such that my shoving range as UTG+1 could be wide, but maybe I'm just trying to invent some scenario where his range is wider.
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    if he's a moron he could show up with 77. You don't have such a read. He's probably just getting tricky with AA/KK because he thinks you'll apply the reasoning you just gave and call with worse. It's really not that complicated of a play....do you give respect to backraises? This shove seems even stronger than most backraises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    if he's a moron he could show up with 77. You don't have such a read. He's probably just getting tricky with AA/KK because he thinks you'll apply the reasoning you just gave and call with worse. It's really not that complicated of a play....do you give respect to backraises? This shove seems even stronger than most backraises.
    Alright, I'm just trying to get an idea of ranges here, so it seems most ppl give him huge respect. I had AKo in this hand and I shoved and wanted to see how good/bad that was.

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