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  1. #1

    Default oesd + mid-pair on flop

    how should i have played this?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 6.5 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG+1 (t1980)
    MP1 (t970)
    MP2 (t1335)
    MP3 (t1245)
    CO (t2125)
    Button (t1615)
    SB (t1070)
    Hero (BB) (t1500)
    UTG (t1660)

    Hero's M: 20.00

    Preflop: Hero is BB with ,
    UTG calls t50, 4 folds, CO calls t50, Button calls t50, SB calls t25, Hero checks

    Flop: (t250) , , (5 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets t115, CO calls t115, Button calls t115, 1 fold, Hero calls t115

    Turn: (t710) (4 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Button bets t150, Hero calls t150, UTG calls t150, 1 fold

    River: (t1160) (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets t100, Hero calls t100, 1 fold

    Total pot: t1360
  2. #2
    I play it the same as you preflop and the first time around on the flop, however when it comes around to me with the bet and two calls I shove all-in. You have good fold equity against all these donks and even if you're called, you have good equity with a pair and an OESD (up to 13 outs, so ~50% equity), and there are heaps of chips in the pot already. Shoving is definitely better than flat calling.

    As played, I guess the rest is OK because your pot odds are so good, but I'd never be in this spot to start with.
  3. #3
    I would lead out on this flop with QT about PSB, you are good vs most hands (except sets and made str8s) but I would like to take the pot down on the flop, I dont mind playing for stacks on this flop


  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    I would lead out on this flop with QT about PSB, you are good vs most hands (except sets and made str8s) but I would like to take the pot down on the flop, I dont mind playing for stacks on this flop
    Given there are 5 players seeing the flop I think I prefer to C-R AI since the chance is pretty good that somebody will bet. Also, if we lead out for PSB, get flat called and miss the turn we have to shove the rest of our chips in with only half the equity we had on the flop (and less fold equity too).
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168 View Post
    Given there are 5 players seeing the flop I think I prefer to C-R AI since the chance is pretty good that somebody will bet. Also, if we lead out for PSB, get flat called and miss the turn we have to shove the rest of our chips in with only half the equity we had on the flop (and less fold equity too).
    While I dont mind playing for stacks if I have to I dont really prefer to do it, in order to pull CRAI you have to get someone to bet, which I agree is likely but not sure.
    If we get called and miss I am not sure I am shoving the turn, it also depends on the number of opponents.

    I think both CRAI and leading are preferred option to check-call


  6. #6
    With shorter stacks I would go with a CRAI. But with decent equity and deeper stacks, I'm going to lead it since everyone was passive preflop.
  7. #7
    CR to like 500 ship turn,we have a better chance of folding Jx firing two shells. Leading out gives you pretty much no shot at getting Jx out and most other hands it doesn't matter which you choose.

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