A couple hands for Review

[Imthenewfish]

"the way we played it?"

lol @ this fish doing any sort of handreading. He's looking at the now scarier board.

Also I have no idea what "protection over value" means. The turn bet is either for value or it's bad.

Okay, by protection over value I meant I wanted to make all draws pay more and fold a higher % of the time; rather than let them call for slightly less and call a higher % of the time. Because there are several draws, I feel that he could take the pot down if a scare card came that completed part of his range, even if it didn't really improve his hand. I feel that we have to bet more for it not to be a profitable draw for him because we won't always know where we're at by the river.

[d0zer]

Okay, by protection over value I meant I wanted to make all draws pay more and fold a higher % of the time; rather than let them call for slightly less and call a higher % of the time.

If we increase his calling frequency significantly enough it's more +EV. I don't think a queen is folding to either size -- I'm thinking more of value from weaker made hands that are gunna be scared of the flush coming in.

This is a pretty minor point I'm trying to make about value betting feesh smaller when the board gets scarier.

Because there are several draws, I feel that he could take the pot down if a scare card came that completed part of his range, even if it didn't really improve his hand.

You really shouldn't be worried about feesh turning made hands into bluffs on scary rivers -- it really doesn't happen nearly enough to concern yourself with it.

I feel that we have to bet more for it not to be a profitable draw for him because we won't always know where we're at by the river.

You have position on a fish. It's really ez to know where you are when draws come in and he donks the river big. Or you can check behind if draws complete -- we do has position. If we don't suck on the river then he has no implied odds to chase anyway, and a little over pot doesn't give him direct odds. Don't worry about fish chasing when you have position.

I'm all for charging fish the max to chase, and I don't hate your sizing at all -- I just think mine is a little better in this spot because of the 3-flush. *shrug*