1/2 - hero call vs. weird fish 200bb deep?

[Renton]

I doubt this guy is giving any thought to what we might have or what we think he might have. He certainly doesn't think about what worse hands can call his value bets. In his world a value bet is a bet when he likes his hand. A bluff is a bet when he doesn't.

No, but when donks see a flush out they consider anything < a flush to be a hand they don't like that much (AW GAWDAMNIT THE FUCKING FLUSH HITS EVERY GOD DAMN FUCKIN TIME). So when they c/minr on a flush completing turn and bet the river, they have the flush or a bluff, generally. If he has a worse aces up I think he doesn't c/r the turn.

[pocketfours]

No, but when donks see a flush out they consider anything < a flush to be a hand they don't like that much (AW GAWDAMNIT THE FUCKING FLUSH HITS EVERY GOD DAMN FUCKIN TIME). So when they c/minr on a flush completing turn and bet the river, they have the flush or a bluff, generally. If he has a worse aces up I think he doesn't c/r the turn.

I'd say passive fish often play and think like you describe. Loose aggro donkeys who want to see a lot of flops and then splash some moneys aren't always scared of flushes.

Even if we assume that you are correct here then I still don't hate a call, esp with the blocker. His line is just a bit too fancy for me to give him credit for a flush. Double c/r and big river lead. Jesus.

I also think his flop c/r is a bit small for an unpaired hand.

We know he likes to bluff and we need to be good 30%. I really couldn't find a fold here.