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    Hey all,

    Been a while - but it's good to be back.

    I have a job now but ... unfortunately am still a losing poker player, i've spent an inconceivabally long time just recently trying to figure out what I can do to win. In the end I've decided to go back to absolute basics. Going to start grinding 2nl from today and hope within about 3 months to be playing 10nl.

    Going to chart my progress here
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    *head asplode*
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    I'll be reading along.
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    Did I see you on iPoker back in late november/early December?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    Mission: Impossible
    boog wins thread
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    Lolz Slevin, I was pretending to be you on IRC yesterday for kicks. You're a still a legend round these parts imo. You should prolly quit the day job so you can focus on poker properly though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    Lolz Slevin, I was pretending to be you on IRC yesterday for kicks. You're a still a legend round these parts imo. You should prolly quit the day job so you can focus on poker properly though.
    New thread champ.
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    *head asplode*
    that

    but also that:

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    Let's just hope you'll stick to it.
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    Hey guys nice to see you all, well today down 4bi's, i'm watching a series from DC i dloaded a while back so going to watch that over next two days and then go back to playing. When I get paid next week will take a subscription to DC out I think.

    Had deposited $30 thinking it would probabally be ok for 2nl but am feeling the pressure now so will wait until I get some rakeback that's due on Friday before I play anymore.

    Here are some losing hands

    1.
    (I know my overbet isn't very textbook but I thought he might have had FD or straight draw now and was trying to induce a shove from him.)

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($0.70)
    MP ($1.18)
    Button ($1.33)
    Hero (SB) ($2.05)
    BB ($2.38)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, A
    1 fold, MP calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

    Flop: ($0.08) A, 7, 7 (4 players)
    Hero bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08, 2 folds

    Turn: ($0.24) Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.46, BB raises to $2.28 (All-In), Hero calls $1.49 (All-In)

    River: ($4.14) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $4.14 | Rake: $0.27

    2. BvB... top pair... no real reads as had just joined table.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (SB) ($2)
    BB ($0.85)
    UTG ($5.10)
    MP ($2.97)
    Button ($2.08)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, J
    3 folds, Hero calls $0.01, BB bets $0.06, Hero calls $0.04

    Flop: ($0.12) 10, 6, 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $0.16, Hero raises to $0.60, BB raises to $0.79 (All-In), Hero calls $0.19

    Turn: ($1.70) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($1.70) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $1.70 | Rake: $0.11

    Results:
    Hero had 10, J (one pair, tens).
    BB had A, A (one pair, Aces).
    Outcome: BB won $1.59

    3. This guy was 60/30 over about 25 hands (not good sample I know but he certainly seemed fishy)

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($3.16)
    SB ($4)
    BB ($3.95)
    UTG ($2.84)
    Hero (MP) ($3.10)
    CO ($4.19)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 10, 10
    UTG bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.21, 4 folds, UTG raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $3.10 (All-In), UTG calls $2.34 (All-In)

    Flop: ($5.71) 4, Q, 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Turn: ($5.71) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($5.71) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $5.71 | Rake: $0.38

    Results:
    UTG had A, A (one pair, Aces).
    Hero had 10, 10 (one pair, tens).
    Outcome: UTG won $5.33


    I think I just need to really tighten up and virtually only get it in if I think I have THE nuts e.g. (KK+ pf) - instead of if I think I have him beat (i.e. the nuts vs his perceived range) and just start pretending they never stack off with less than tptk on the flop.
    Last edited by LuckySlevin; 03-24-2010 at 09:44 PM.
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    good luck...
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    Slevin - You have no idea how popular you are. FTR missed you bigtime. I missed you.
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    good luck. Stick with brm and all will be well! and nice work with getting a job
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    thanks everyone hopefully will get things right this time around
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    Hand1 : I don't like.
    Fold pre . You'll be out of postion, likely to be dominated by better aces
    or raise to steal depending on whether BB can fold to a steal.
    flop: ok still be wary of my crap kicker and I'd probably have made it 0.06
    turn: WTF you aint got the nuts AQ A7 7x QQ AK all have you beat. I'd bet about .16. When he shoves I fold without a good read.
    If i'd raised to steal
    Hand 2:
    pre : i raise to steal, not limping in,fold to resteal and as played I don't call his raise .
    flop : hit top pair but its still a weak hand , I'm playing for a small pot here.
    as played WTF with the check raise , he raised you, hes overbetting the pot , he likes his hand why stack off with a medium pair and fair kicker.
    hand3: UTG open though, i could see myself raising possibly , maye calling depending on what i'd seen him play like and the players behind but not sure i like getting it all in that deep.
    Last edited by Keith; 03-26-2010 at 05:32 AM.
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    yo slevin, good to see you back!
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    Thanks for hand analysis Keith,

    and hey Jack man good to see you,

    Played for about an hour today and up a buy in, which is cool. One of the things I'm doing lately is playing less and studying more - I'm looking forward to getting my subscription to DC next week.

    Biggest growth for me over coming months if I"m to be profitble is emotional maturity. Being able to lose a few bi's and take a break and come back without wanting to gamble with your bankroll. So far I'm feeling confident.

    I know with certainty now (something I never believed before) that if you play good poker and learn the game you will definately profit. I deluded myself into thinking i was running bad for months at a time before!

    As volume isn't massive I won't post here every day just trouble hands and probabally 2weekly/monthly graphs
    Last edited by LuckySlevin; 03-25-2010 at 09:00 PM.
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    Hey flomo nice to see you, hope you're doing well.

    All in all not a bad day today.

    Played one real bad hand which was just calling with nothing because I was frustrated at never hitting the flop *slaps wrist* but apart from that was pretty solid.

    Biggest hand was this one

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (3 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (SB) ($4.05)
    BB ($3.66)
    Button ($7.09)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, 9
    Button calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.10, BB calls $0.08, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.22) 4, 7, A (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.14, BB raises to $0.28, Hero calls $0.14

    Turn: ($0.78) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, BB raises to $1.10, Hero raises to $3.67 (All-In), BB calls $2.18 (All-In)

    River: ($7.34) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $7.34 | Rake: $0.48

    Results:
    Hero had Q, 9 (flush, Ace high).
    BB had A, 4 (two pair, Aces and fours).
    Outcome: Hero won $6.86

    Ended today up a buy in so pretty cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckySlevin View Post
    1.
    (I know my overbet isn't very textbook but I thought he might have had FD or straight draw now and was trying to induce a shove from him.)

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($0.70)
    MP ($1.18)
    Button ($1.33)
    Hero (SB) ($2.05)
    BB ($2.38)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, A
    1 fold, MP calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

    Flop: ($0.08) A, 7, 7 (4 players)
    Hero bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08, 2 folds

    Turn: ($0.24) Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.46, BB raises to $2.28 (All-In), Hero calls $1.49 (All-In)

    River: ($4.14) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $4.14 | Rake: $0.27


    3. This guy was 60/30 over about 25 hands (not good sample I know but he certainly seemed fishy)

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($3.16)
    SB ($4)
    BB ($3.95)
    UTG ($2.84)
    Hero (MP) ($3.10)
    CO ($4.19)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 10, 10
    UTG bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.21, 4 folds, UTG raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $3.10 (All-In), UTG calls $2.34 (All-In)

    Flop: ($5.71) 4, Q, 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Turn: ($5.71) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($5.71) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $5.71 | Rake: $0.38

    Results:
    UTG had A, A (one pair, Aces).
    Hero had 10, 10 (one pair, tens).
    Outcome: UTG won $5.33
    Put simply, the two things in poker that will define your winrate are hands you win and hands you lose. Win more, lose less, make monies. Hand 1 bet turn smaller/fold to shove. Hand 3 150bb deep this isn't good. Fold both of these and that's over 200bb you potentially still have at the end of the session. Folding is good for your winrate too.
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    good luck will be following
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    I'm always astounded at the "never say die" mentality that some people possess. I'll enjoy checking. As with most things in life, expect the worst, hope for the best.
    Good luck!
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    Sup sfc and kijjo thanks for saying hello.

    So I've played about 1k of hands since start of this thread. On the whole I'm pretty pleased with my play. Keeping a disciplined head etc. Last 24 hours I'm about $1 up.

    If it wasn't for this hand a few minutes ago would be doing alot better!

    The villian seemed pretty agro and he had a shark avatar (obv donk then lol) don't have any stats as I've turned hud off for a bit to try to focus more on table action.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP ($10.22)
    Hero (Button) ($4.07)
    SB ($5.65)
    BB ($3.84)
    UTG ($1.72)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, A
    1 fold, MP calls $0.02, Hero bets $0.08, 1 fold, BB calls $0.06, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.19) 7, 2, 4 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.49, BB raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $3.99 (All-In), BB calls $2.86 (All-In)

    Turn: ($7.71) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($7.71) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $7.71 | Rake: $0.51

    Results:
    Hero had 7, A (one pair, sevens).
    BB had 6, 6 (three of a kind, sixes).
    Outcome: BB won $7.20

    Onwards and upwards... It's saturday 11:24am - should get some decent volume in today
    Last edited by LuckySlevin; 03-27-2010 at 07:28 AM.
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    don't like this one either . Why do you insist on paying for stacks with mediocre hands. Villains play is atrocious as well but I ain't trying to help him.
    Why stack off when he's reraising you ? you've got to factor sets ,overpairs, flush draws into his range. Also over half the deck is going to be scary for you if he continues. Not a good reason to be risking a deep stack
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    I think sets are a really small part of his range he'd need exactly 22 or 44 really. With his half pot donk I think it's much more likely he has some kind of straight or flush draw to be honest, or overcards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckySlevin View Post
    I think sets are a really small part of his range he'd need exactly 22 or 44 really. With his half pot donk I think it's much more likely he has some kind of straight or flush draw to be honest, or overcards.
    It looks like you stack off pretty light 200bb deep. Do you use pot control very often? Call down? Raising will often reduce the range you are playing against, to the point that you lose value and increase variance.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is it's not always a race to get your stack in, it can be done more progressively when the value is there, and sometimes you want to be playing a pot you can get away from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckySlevin View Post
    I think sets are a really small part of his range he'd need exactly 22 or 44 really. With his half pot donk I think it's much more likely he has some kind of straight or flush draw to be honest, or overcards.
    I extremely doubt that this guy is stcking off with overcards . Overpairs yes but then you are still in trouble and looking at 6 outs.
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    yeah guess we just see the hand differently, thanks for your post anyway man
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
    Mission: Impossible
    Hahaha
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    sheeet
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckySlevin View Post
    ...and he had a shark avatar (obv donk then lol) don't have any stats as I've turned hud off for a bit to try to focus more on table action.
    Brain explosion
    Last edited by nice_aiau; 05-15-2010 at 12:40 AM.
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    bump
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    LuckySlevin = The most-impersonated man in FTR history.

    Muzz was pretending to be you a few days ago in IRC. FWIW.

    Still at 2 en el btw? moar posts imo
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    bbickes was upset that I locked all his threads, but I left this one open for all his fans!
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    Quote Originally Posted by courtiebee View Post
    bbickes was upset that I locked all his threads, but I left this one open for all his fans!
    ty.

    was not happy about the lockings. was gunna call abuse of power, but as long as we haf one thread I won't have to make donkthorne raise his powerful backhand on you

    welcome back slevin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    welcome back slevin!
    He's not actually back. No updates at all. I guess we could keep bumping this op though. Maybe tell our favorite slevin stories. Nah, let's not.
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    so i was doing a sweat last night and spotted him on 5nl FR at stars on one of the tables being played . Looked him up on PTR to see if he's learnt and actually sticking to bankroll management and ....

    LkySlev1n Poker Player Hands Analysis at PokerStars

    .5/1$ PLO etc WTF???????

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