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    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 12 Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB (t1530)
    UTG (t1380)
    MP (t1500)
    CO (t1170)
    Hero (Button) (t1380)
    SB (t2040)

    Hero's M: 23.00

    Preflop: Hero is Button with K, Q
    3 folds, Hero bets t120, 1 fold, BB calls t80

    Flop: (t260) 6, J, K (2 players)
    BB bets t150, Hero raises to t480, BB calls t330

    Turn: (t1220) J (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: (t1220) A (2 players)
    BB bets t130, Hero calls t130
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    Argh. I hate getting donked into when I miss. luckily you hit. Any idea what the 2/3 pot donk means from villian? Generally I think it's weak.. flush draw or second pair (which makes the turn suck). Eh, turn is too thin for value. River is lol but call. Please don't tell me he had Queen-Ten.
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    I would just shove over on the flop, you probably have the best hand, however there are a ton of cards you dont want to see on the turn or river


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    Quote Originally Posted by dneureiter View Post
    Argh. I hate getting donked into when I miss. luckily you hit. Any idea what the 2/3 pot donk means from villian? Generally I think it's weak.. flush draw or second pair (which makes the turn suck). Eh, turn is too thin for value. River is lol but call. Please don't tell me he had Queen-Ten.
    its pretty early (6 max), so no great reads seems loose, on the flop i assumed lots of FD's,Ax, Jx's, and Kx's in his range so it was a value raise. Obviously turn improves a ton of his range. river is also terrible, if it wasn't a tiny little bet i would of defiantly folded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    I would just shove over on the flop, you probably have the best hand, however there are a ton of cards you dont want to see on the turn or river
    i think by shoving flop I loose a lot of value from Jx, and FDs, if he's calling my raise with worse hes making a pretty big mistake (as i gave im pretty poor odds) which i think is good. obviously if someone has a tendency to stack off when villians range improves then shoving flop is better, but i think i'm ok their.
    what worse hands are calling a shove other then maybe K10, or K9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulksy View Post
    what worse hands are calling a shove other then maybe K10, or K9.

    villian would have to be terrible for 12$ games if he's stacks worse this early ever. he might call some combo draw but we're not much ahead of that. I like the value raise. turn card sucks, river card sucks. like 80% of your money went in while ahead. Don't see how you can play it better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulksy View Post
    i think by shoving flop I loose a lot of value from Jx, and FDs, if he's calling my raise with worse hes making a pretty big mistake (as i gave im pretty poor odds) which i think is good. obviously if someone has a tendency to stack off when villians range improves then shoving flop is better, but i think i'm ok their.
    I don't think he's making a big mistake calling your raise with worse. You laid him 1:2.7 which is not that poor at all. If he has exactly FD, then he needs to get an average of some 400-450 out of you as implied odds, which I think is quite reasonable. Give him less than that and you'll be folding too many better hands.
    As you have pointed out, shoving over doesn't induce many mistakes either. How about just calling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fielmann View Post
    I don't think he's making a big mistake calling your raise with worse. You laid him 1:2.7 which is not that poor at all. If he has exactly FD, then he needs to get an average of some 400-450 out of you as implied odds, which I think is quite reasonable. Give him less than that and you'll be folding too many better hands.
    As you have pointed out, shoving over doesn't induce many mistakes either. How about just calling?
    i don't think he has that great of implied odds, as calling my raise on the flop, narrows his range quite a bit, FD's K9+ J9+, if flush draw comes i'm usually not stacking off, + maybe he's calling with just Jx, and his odds are even worse. I guess though against most of the bad players they still might so meh.

    i really don't like calling because of how many draws (straight and Flush) are present. plus i think many weaker hands will call so I'm getting value by raising.
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    FWIW I would have played that almost exactly as you did. I like the flop raise. No point betting the turn, that Jack is not good for you, and no point raising the river, a big bet would have meant a fold imp but no point folding to such a tiny bet.
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    ANd his flop call is awful, unless he thinks you are fos quite often.
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