These people are our future

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Another underlying concept that seems to support your theories is the idea that having earned an amount of money, it is yours to do with as you please. I can see how you come to this conclusion, but it again is way off base. If we can imagine that only one person existed in the world, we can clearly agree that he is neither rich nor poor.

Read my post above. If there is one person in the world he can be rich or poor. He can grow a lot of vegetables, hunt a lot, he can make a game to pass the time, basically, he could work so he can be happy and healthy which are two things he probably values. If he works hard and makes a lot of things that make him happy and healthy, he is wealthy. If he doesn't work, doesn't grow shit, and doesn't do anything to help entertain himself, he's gonna be poor. And probably depressed.

[wufwugy]

Read my post above. If there is one person in the world he can be rich or poor. He can grow a lot of vegetables, hunt a lot, he can make a game to pass the time, basically, he could work so he can be happy and healthy which are two things he probably values. If he works hard and makes a lot of things that make him happy and healthy, he is wealthy. If he doesn't work, doesn't grow shit, and doesn't do anything to help entertain himself, he's gonna be poor. And probably depressed.

Human history has had ample experimentation with regards to this. The solitary man cannot get even remotely a fraction of the level of richness than is possible with the kind of society we live in today.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Human history has had ample experimentation with regards to this. The solitary man cannot get even remotely a fraction of the level of richness than is possible with the kind of society we live in today.

I was merely pointing out that boosts idea, that one man on his own living in a world can not be rich or poor, was incorrect.

[Lyric]

Human history has had ample experimentation with regards to this. The solitary man cannot get even remotely a fraction of the level of richness than is possible with the kind of society we live in today.

Correct. More people living together can grow exponentially more wealthy via trade and exchange of information and technology, but a solitary man can still create wealth alone on an island.

[wufwugy]

Correct. More people living together can grow exponentially more wealthy via trade and exchange of information and technology, but a solitary man can still create wealth alone on an island.

Yet still not price-able

This whole idea is seriously woo woo territory. It's like thinking you can cut a cell with a knife because you can cut skin with a knife

[Lyric]

Yet still not price-able

This whole idea is seriously woo woo territory. It's like thinking you can cut a cell with a knife because you can cut skin with a knife

Prices are 100% irrelevant to wealth. Wealth is something human beings value. That's it... no prices needed. Cheese is valuable to most men. Making cheese and storing it in your hut is still creating and storing wealth, even if there is no price tag on the cheese.

Prices are only needed when two men begin bargaining about how much cheese to exchange for how many bottles of wine.

[a500lbgorilla]

Yet still not price-able

This whole idea is seriously woo woo territory. It's like thinking you can cut a cell with a knife because you can cut skin with a knife

But you can cut a cell with a knife? It just can't be the same skin-cutting knife but much sharper.

What is woo woo territory? Just wondering; a little Wikipedia link would suffice.

[a500lbgorilla]

Correct. More people living together can grow exponentially more wealthy via trade and exchange of information and technology, but a solitary man can still create wealth alone on an island.

I like this sentence. I wish I understood it more deeply.

The solitary man is easy to understand.

But as you add more people, the problem of where this wealth came from becomes obvious. Unless you can trace back all this wealth to renewable (in human terms) springs or infinite (in human terms) resources, I don't follow how more people living together can grow exponentially more wealthy.

[Lyric]

I like this sentence. I wish I understood it more deeply.

The solitary man is easy to understand.

But as you add more people, the problem of where this wealth came from becomes obvious. Unless you can trace back all this wealth to renewable (in human terms) springs or infinite (in human terms) resources, I don't follow how more people living together can grow exponentially more wealthy.

You can see it with two and three men. At first the man perfects cheese making. He's not very good at wine or anything else. He is alone with good cheese and mediocre wine and veggies.

Man number two arrives and develops a method for making great wine. He's not so good at cheese. They trade. Now both men have great wine and great cheese.

Man three comes along and focuses on making tomatoes. Now all three exchange and all three of them have cheese, wine, and tomatoes that were better than they ever could have had living alone, and they do no more additional work. The added wealth and quality of life improvements come by trading the fruits of their labor with other people.

When you get to 6 billion people you get what we have today. Imagine how high we could climb without gangs of men (governments) coming together to ban us from trading with each other.