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TT facing 30bb shove and call ($26 FO, FTP)

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  1. 09-15-2010 02:25 PM #1
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    Default TT facing 30bb shove and call ($26 FO, FTP)

    UTG is 50/23 over 22 hands, but I haven't seen him push before. The flatter has only been at the table for 4 hands and he's 25/0.

    What is the best play here? All options seem awful to me.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds 5 Ante (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP1 (t3989)
    Hero (MP2) (t5365)
    MP3 (t2299)
    CO (t11555)
    Button (t7843)
    SB (t6191)
    BB (t1297)
    UTG (t1551)
    UTG+1 (t7725)

    Hero's M: 44.71

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 10, 10
    UTG bets t1546 (All-In), UTG+1 calls t1546, 1 fold, Hero ?
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  2. 09-15-2010 02:36 PM #2
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    4 hands = stats mean nothing and the flatter is the most important part of this equation imo because I am comfortable that we are ahead of the shovers range.

    Most flats of a 30 BB shove w/no antes there are/should be really big hands. Occassionally you'll see a tard who flats there with like KQo or 55 or something but at this point I would just sigh and fold and note if he is a tard or not.

    I mean if this were later in the tourney, or if the shover shoved from the button and the SB called, then you have a stronger argument for getting it in - but there really is no point to get yourself in a marginal situation here.
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  3. 09-15-2010 04:06 PM #3
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    I probably shove this, they lolfold more often than you'd think, unless this is a KO tourney.
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    Fold and feel okay about it

    If you've seen UTG open shoving before and the flatter is closer to the BTN, then I think we can consider getting it in
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    I'd fold, feels like tarp plus we only have 38% vs 10% and 20%. if we had flatty covered I would be more tempted.
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  6. 09-15-2010 07:34 PM #6
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    are we only shipping in KK+ then?
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    I say QQ although not sure in game I would be able to fold JJ
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    With caller along we are definately beat from at least one of them. Id shove QQ+
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    Dr. What are your thoughts on shipping AQ here?
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    Looking back at this thread, TT seems like an easy fold. JJ sucks but I think I nit fold it. QQ I can't fold. AK I don't know.

    AQ seems like an easy fold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeaces86 View Post
    Dr. What are your thoughts on shipping AQ here?
    doesn't change much to me, blockers are nice but it's still hard to figure out a range we have 40% + against and I think the cold caller is more likely to have 88-99 than AJ
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