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  1. #1
    nobody feels like 4-betting for value pre?
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc View Post
    nobody feels like 4-betting for value pre?
    oh and yah I would probably do this. Feel like laggs often convince themselves you have AQ or something here, and are capable of shoving 99-TT sometimes.

    This depends on the opener I suppose, and his tendency to flat QQ+ here. Some regs never flat those hands here, with a player behind.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24 View Post
    oh and yah I would probably do this. Feel like laggs often convince themselves you have AQ or something here, and are capable of shoving 99-TT sometimes.

    This depends on the opener I suppose, and his tendency to flat QQ+ here. Some regs never flat those hands here, with a player behind.
    if you do 4bet, we call the 5bet shove?
    Normski
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by WillburForce View Post
    if you do 4bet, we call the 5bet shove?
    I would never 4bet and NOT call a 5-bet shove. Our hand might as well be a bluff then, who needs JJ, can just do the same thing with 72o here then.

    Again, this is mostly cause the 3bettor seems laggy, and we'll probably have enough fold equity/dead money to call this off overall. If he's tight then I like calling pre.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks

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