2/4 - I love Axdd - are we value betting?

[griffey24]

Why would he call us lighter on the turn than on the river in hand 2?

Our turn shoving range has our draws but also all our strong hands, whereas a turn check river shove line prob doesn't have as many strong hands in it. He can also perceive his line as looking weak if he calls flop, cks turn and cks riv, so he might be more likely to hero call?

[pocketfours]

Why would he call us lighter on the turn than on the river in hand 2?

Bet small and perhaps he jams 56dd/67dd or even better, KQdd. What exactly is he going to fold on the turn that he would pay you off with on the river? Just bet like $100 again imo.

[griffey24]

hmm I guess I'm thinking more that on the flop ppl will often peel oop with TT-KK type hands, to re-eval.

We bet turn, and ppl can convince themselves of a fold given they are behind often and hands they are ahead of have reasonable equity.

We check turn, and bet river, they can convince themselves that they look weak and that our range is now much weaker after not betting turn.

It depends on what level ppl are on I suppose.