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Middle set on river, two villains, poss straight/wet board ($5NL micros)

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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet View Post
    fold, flat pre.
    I've been looking at a bunch of players' 3bet stats in 5NL micros and it looks like while calling a 3bet cold isn't something people do very often (probably something like ~5%), calling a 3bet after they put in the preflop raise is a lot higher. I don't know if HEM has a specific stat for that, but my hunch is that people will tend to call a 3bet because they think since the pot is bigger, their strong hand has more value. Does anyone have a take on this?
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by rowhousepd View Post
    I've been looking at a bunch of players' 3bet stats in 5NL micros and it looks like while calling a 3bet cold isn't something people do very often (probably something like ~5%), calling a 3bet after they put in the preflop raise is a lot higher. I don't know if HEM has a specific stat for that, but my hunch is that people will tend to call a 3bet because they think since the pot is bigger, their strong hand has more value. Does anyone have a take on this?
    Some people probably do call lighter after their pfr is 3-bet because of preflop pot odds, but that's a mistake since their implied odds have been cut dramatically once the price of poker goes up.

    I agree with treebet now about folding. The river gives us a set but it also completes alot of draws and you're not closing the action.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by couriermike View Post
    Some people probably do call lighter after their pfr is 3-bet because of preflop pot odds, but that's a mistake since their implied odds have been cut dramatically once the price of poker goes up.
    Follow up: Just did a little research (my database + pokertableratings.com.) At the micros, the average PRF is roughly ~10%. In HEM (& PT too, I believe) the vs. 3bet Call % refers to calling a 3bet after you already put in a PFR. The average for that is ~30% (which really is about the top 3% of a player's range).

    So in the example above, that's about ~4-5%; he was probably hold TT+, AQs+, AKo ... and not surprisingly, that's spot on for this hand.

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