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  1. #1

    Default QQ/trying to plan a hand

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 6.5 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG+1 (t890)
    MP1 (t1490)
    MP2 (t2115)
    MP3 (t1820)
    Hero (CO) (t1470)
    Button (t1465)
    SB (t1370)
    BB (t1380)
    UTG (t1500)

    Hero's M: 32.67

    Preflop: Hero is CO with ,
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP2 calls t30, MP3 calls t30, Hero bets t150, 1 fold, SB calls t135, 4 folds

    Flop: (t420) , , (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets t300, SB calls t300

    Turn: (t1020) (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets t1020 (All-In)

    6th hand. villain had been in one hand exc big blind, but nth to tell from that.
    from all i ve read on here, i ve been wanting to improve my thinking on the board. plan on flop was to bet enough leaving a pot bet on turn. not sure if that was wise now. should i have slowed down if an ace or king had come?
    or, could have bet less on flop, ~200, then if he floats i can bet turn and allow myself to get out if check raised. wouldve put about 50% of my stack in tho by this point so that aint great either.

    could someone enlighten me pls?

    is pre size ok? 2 of the limpers had already been in most of the pots with weak hands.
  2. #2
    looks great. pre I don't think anyone really knows what is optimal**, so I would extend the same thinking you did on flop - guess one caller and then raise enough so you can get it in on flop+turn.

    **for example, this play allows any PP to make a +EV call once one other player flats I think. You're almost always going to get stacked when he makes a set - and when it comes A/Kxx with his set he'll often stack someone else even if you get away. But in order to price out the PP in MP3's hand (or MP2 w/e) , you would have to make a super large raise that would probably result in everyone playing their hand perfectly against you which can't be right either.
  3. #3
    i'm a fan of overbet shoving the flop when we're never folding anyway.
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    i'm a fan of overbet shoving the flop when we're never folding anyway.
    Why?
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Nakamura View Post
    Why?
    +1

    reads help here but someone competent is calling AJ and better hands. You are folding most worse hands and never folding better.
  6. #6
    Sometimes I bet half my stack on the turn and get the other half in on the river, but this is fine too.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Nakamura View Post
    Why?
    because plenty of cards come that will kill action, and because of the number of people who fold to double-barrels. TT/99/8x will often peel one and re-eval on turn, folding when you shove. if you shove the flop it looks FOS and they'll level themselves into calling.
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
  8. #8
    I'd make it 180-200 pre, you'll typically get at least one caller at these limits.

    As played I'd bet flop slightly larger as well and now just shove turn


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