AIDS spot 50nl Rush 200bb deep

[mbiz]

Does a c/r on the turn here define your range to him a lot more than leading does? ie. looking super strong after the bet/call on flop. I would think this makes leading a better option????

[Donachello]

Does a c/r on the turn here define your range to him a lot more than leading does? ie. looking super strong after the bet/call on flop. I would think this makes leading a better option????

This is one of the things that Dustin and I discussed on Skype. I am pretty sure that by taking a line as strong as this the villain is never ever going to get a FD in against us on the turn. Our line appears to be exclusively sets and I though we are getting like 4958754:1 on a call villain is literally NEVER clicking back a FD which means he either holds 99, KK(played wtf style) or 68s (4 combos). Yeah it sucks to fold to such a small raise but with 33 behind what are we really drawing to? A FH vs a hand that is going to be a better FH half of the time?

It feels so gross to invest 130BB and fold but given out massive strength line and his even more massive strength line I could see making a hero fold here given that it is RUSH FR where this nits are nittier than ever.

Granted in game if I played the hand like this I'd probably call and call all non club rivers.

I'm also curious why 3betting the flop is bad? I'd say if we don't 3bet the flop then leading the turn is definitely better than c/r.