Call or fold?

[Hoopy]

I like your 4bet sizing here.

Folding is really bad though, consider his range and your equity vs it.

[OngBonga]

Awesome until you fold. It's good you can fold AK pre, but it should be done against ranges that dominate your hand, such as QQ+ AKs, and this guy is shoving way wider than this. He's probably got 22+ ATs+ AQ+, idk, he's looking pretty wild to me.

If villain is like 8/5, then yeah, fold, but don't let wild donks push you around. If he's got you dominated, that's tought luck. Reload and move on.

[EasyPoker]

I like your 4bet sizing here.

Because?

Folding is really bad though, consider his range and your equity vs it.

Because? Not saying I disagree with either, but that type of response doesn't help other members of the forum learn AT ALL.

never folding vs a 50/42 here.

This, simply because his 3betting range is as wide as a whore's gape, and your 4bet likely just pissed him off so that he jammed. This defo happens at lolstakes.

[daviddem]

Because? Not saying I disagree with either, but that type of response doesn't help other members of the forum learn AT ALL.

Hoopy's answer is fair. OP (or other forum members for that matter) should do their homework, put villain on a range and do the "analyze calling an all-in" thing. Even if villain 4b shoves only with KK+,AK, it's still a call (37% equity, 36% pot odds). If his range is any wider than that (and it is), it's gravy.

[EasyPoker]

Hoopy's answer is fair. OP (or other forum members for that matter) should do their homework, put villain on a range and do the "analyze calling an all-in" thing. Even if villain 4b shoves only with KK+,AK, it's still a call (37% equity, 36% pot odds). If his range is any wider than that (and it is), it's gravy.

And how does this answer the 4bet sizing question?

[Hoopy]

Because?

Because? Not saying I disagree with either, but that type of response doesn't help other members of the forum learn AT ALL.

Fair points I should have expanded on what I meant and posted some links for the OP.

1. I like the sizing because he can shove over with air sometimes, if we made it like $3.50 I think he folds more. Smaller probably misses value from stuff like AT/KJ and might make him flat more which is ok but but oop with AKo in a 4bet pot does suck since we brick so often.

2. Well I meant that folding may have zero expected value but if calling is found to be +EV then we should call. Since this is an all in the only things you need to think about is pot odds and his range because there is no action afterwards.

Basically I think it's better for people to do stuff like this themselves so they understand the why behind decisions. Rather than have 50 people post "EZ snap call". You only learn the "what" from that.

Props to PKKFW for running through the calculations.