The Unofficial But Kind of Official US Pawliticks Thread

[d0zer]

You're right, pure egalitarianism hasn't been implemented, and never will be. But egalitarian measures most certainly have, and they're demonstrably more efficient than capitalism

People seem to forget that capitalism (and related theories) provokes and perpetuates immense suffering of millions (arguably billions), while egalitarian measures (often called socialism) like non-profit health care or law enforcement are responsible for alleviation of much suffering

The profit motive as the ruler of society is incredibly destructive. People just pretend it's not by being ignorant about society itself

I don't see what's wrong with having a capitalistic society with the degree of socialism necessary to alleviate the suffering of the masses. Going to the socialist extreme is as bad as going to the capitalist extreme. Both extremes are throwing the baby out with the bathwater without acknowledging the strengths each offers.

[wufwugy]

I don't see what's wrong with having a capitalistic society with the degree of socialism necessary to alleviate the suffering of the masses. Going to the socialist extreme is as bad as going to the capitalist extreme. Both extremes are throwing the baby out with the bathwater without acknowledging the strengths each offers.

Socialism is villified; it's actually good stuff. A socialistic extreme would be a really good place, but it's arguable that a less extreme socialism that had some capitalism would be better

People don't really know what socialism is. Family owned business and many small businesses are socialism, for example. In the real world, socialism has beaten the living fuck out of capitalism WRT results. The problem is that people look at cronyism and dictatorships like Soviets or China and call them socialism; they weren't and they aren't. Then they look at Soviets losing to US and claim it was because of economic policy; it wasn't, it was because of resource distribution and post-WW2 infrastructure health