FACT

[wufwugy]

Firefly is the best show ever

Discuss

[boost]

you're stupid.


that being said, Firefly is a very very good show. And I'd be ok with saying it's the best of that genre (the genre that Joss Weidon (created?) dominated for a few decades.)

[rong]

This???????? Firefly (TV Series 2002–2003) - IMDb

It looks appalling! I desperately need a new show to get in to. Can't find anything at the moment that holds my attention. Don't think this is gonna do it.

[kickass]

I was super against watching it cos buffy. But after years of everyone saying it was awesome I gave it a go. It's fucking awesome serenity was also fucking awesome. That is all.

[rong]

Fringe looks ok, kinda reminds me of xfiles, though I'm only half an episode in.

[jyms]

It was awesome and died far too young

[KoRnholio]

Firefly was very good. But it wasn't so much that it was a good season, it was that it had a LOT of potential. And Fox fucked them in the ass.

Fringe looks ok, kinda reminds me of xfiles, though I'm only half an episode in.

Fringe started out kinda neat. Then it got weird. I stopped watching I think at the end of season 2 (when Leonard Nemoy first appeared). That being said, I wasn't ever into x-files so my opinion on this genre probably sucks.

[a500lbgorilla]

Firefly was v good. The episode where their engines and life support crap out was incredible. The show had insane potential.

The movie was also very good.

[wufwugy]

Is Firefly better than other shows like Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, or The Wire? No. Is it a 10/10 with regards to enjoyment, uniqueness, and coolness? Yes. Plus the theme song is goat

Every time I watch this show, I miss it even more. It arguably has more well put together character development and storytelling of any show

BTW, Dana, you'd hate it. Inara's too fat and Kaylee is like a 3/10

[BankItDrew]

I tried watching the first episode of Firefly last night and was like mehhhh. Turned it off pretty quickly.

And don't give me this "oh it get's better" bs. There's only a dozen or so episodes!

[wufwugy]

Lucky for you, it doesn't get better; it starts out fantastic. The ability to perceive the fantastic, however, is requisite for acknowledgement of the said fantastic

[BankItDrew]

To perceive shit as beautiful, does not not make it beautiful. Overall quality is determined by the masses, thus ending the show early.

[wufwugy]

No better way to make your point than the fact that most of what you say is construed by the masses as satire

[BankItDrew]

Are you offended that I don't like your show?

[rong]

It looks awful. Comparing to good modern sci-fi is like comparing the original Batman tv show to the new Batman films.

[a500lbgorilla]

People who have not seen the show: It's terrible.

People who have seen the show: It's amazing.

Just watch the movie if you don't want to endure 13 episodes of a well-written space-western.

[bigred]

People who have not seen the show: It's terrible.

People who have seen the show: It's amazing.

Just watch the movie if you don't want to endure 13 episodes of a well-written space-western.

Pretty much this..except watch the show. It's awesome. FACT

[wufwugy]

The movie is good, but it is still way worse than the show. Just an entirely different thing. The show had fluidity, personality, and coolness that you just don't get anywhere else; the movie lost most of that and became just a decent Hollywood thing

[a500lbgorilla]

Golden delicious apples are the best apples. FACT

[kickass]

new zeland Empire apples are the best super mega fact!

[a500lbgorilla]

Your lies will be your un-doing, kickass! FACT

[wufwugy]

Jayne is a mini-Tobias. Cuz you know how everything Tobias says is hilarious, well 98% of what Jayne says is hilarious. Adam Baldwin FTW

[boost]

Ya, pretty sure Jayne was my favorite character on that show.

[CoccoBill]

I so thought this thread was a level. Now I so think I've been robbed for not seeing this show before. Soon I'm gonna think life sucks, since I'll never ever be able to watch this again for the first time.

[wufwugy]

Bumping because FACT

[wufwugy]

As trivial the show seems on the surface, it has deeper subtext than most. Things like the way Mal makes money is illegal but honest and the way Inara makes money is legal but dishonest. Or the real reason Mal brought the doc and his crazy sister onto his boat isn't because he needed a medic, but because they're running from the government and he hates the government

[rong]

That dude sounds like a fucking emo.

[wufwugy]

FACT: Mademoiselle Danielle Rong does not like FACTS

[rong]

I don't like what you did there.

[MadMojoMonkey]

FACT: There is a property of our universe which prevents any single consciousness to both know what "fact" means and to know any facts at the same time.

Furthermore, the best bet for finding a fact is to state something personal and temporary, while not thinking about it too hard.

[BennyLaRue]

You're rong.

[MadMojoMonkey]

your ong

[BennyLaRue]

He's not mine.

[MadMojoMonkey]

FACT: Oops. My bad.

[wufwugy]

Out of Gas is one of the best episodes of TV

[a500lbgorilla]

4 real

Firefly was v good. The episode where their engines and life support crap out was incredible. The show had insane potential.

The movie was also very good.

[wufwugy]

great minds etc etc

[wufwugy]

As strong as Out of Gas is, The Message is weak.

I lied, it's not *that* weak, but it is the weakest episode of the 15

[wufwugy]

Rewatching the show tells me that shows of its era had an unavoidable problem that most good ones today don't: commercials. Since the Sopranos introduced quality serial television, most serial TV has been non-commercial because it has been on HBO. Firefly, however, was an episodic show that endeavored to be serial, yet its attempt at matching HBO level serial plots simply in single episodes was thwarted by the need to make a climax before every commercial break

For some reason, I haven't seen this issue with other commercial shows like Sons of Anarchy or Breaking Bad

[rong]

Why is a climax required for an ad break?

[wufwugy]

To keep you from changing the channel

[spoonitnow]

Duh...?

[Renton]

I imagine it goes deeper than that though. Like if there's no climax before an ad-break, the average shitkicker in Dickson, TN might get up and get a beer, not being all that concerned that he'll miss the start of the next scene, but if that scene is likely to resolve something that was left up in the air, he'll just stay seated and yell for his fat wife to go get the beer.

[a500lbgorilla]

I imagine it goes deeper than that though. Like if there's no climax before an ad-break, the average shitkicker in Dickson, TN might get up and get a beer, not being all that concerned that he'll miss the start of the next scene, but if that scene is likely to resolve something that was left up in the air, he'll just stay seated and yell for his fat wife to go get the beer.

Because his fat ass can't risk taking over a minute 30 to waddle back from the fridge?