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    Lost 1BI Wednesday and 3 BI Thursday, didn't play yesterday until late, picked up 3/4 BI and went to bed.

    Why did I lose 4 BI? Of course, the reason is (as everyone expected) that I was playing wide/weak ranges in almost every spot. But I wanted to find the cause. Why was my laggy game working fine a week ago but was off the rails last two nights?

    The realization hit me yesterday while gardening. I started out playing the laggy ranges on tables of uknowns, or "slightly knowns" gleaned from table starting. The site is still dominated by TAGG wannabe's and post-flop weak tighties. So my laggy approach was fine (maybe not best, admittedly, but fine).

    As I've got the HUD optimized and worked on table selection, I focused on the fish (65/15's), the maniacs (45/35's), and the LAGG's (35/25's). I try to sit down with position on a couple, leaving TAGG wannabe's on my left.

    I suspect everyone but me foresaw the problem: now I'm on loose, action-filled tables which are absolutely PERFECT for a TAGG approach, and I'm not playing TAGG-std poker. I'm ldo if you want to play laggy, table select to find nits, TAGG wannabes and weak-tighties. If you're table selecting laggy, why not open a small strong range of hands and camp on the nuts? Only open up when (if?) you stop getting action.

    So I've learned some things this week:
    • Play the game you've table-selected for, dumbass!
    • Reversing, I can table-select for the game I want to practice.
    • I'm very much aiming at mid 20's vpip, not 28+
    • I need to work on calling ranges.
    • I am still (relative to my opponent's) very good HU, and need to focus on that rather than "volume" during sessions, especially where I'm running bad. Go with what works.


    A few observations about my learning process in the coming weeks:

    1. Frustrating that FTR has devolved to the point where folks will say "fold pre/ldo he hazz a King" when you post a J9o btn flat HH in the BC, but when you ask for help on preflop flatting ranges, the thread goes silent. We used to have experienced players who would explain their reasoning. I wonder if the new era of one-liners has been ushered in by a general lack of friendliness I also notice in the BC lately. Bashing seems routine, not quite flaming, but "tough love" certainly.
    2. Certain players I respect are disrespected these days on FTR. I can mention half a dozen, but I'll just mention Spoon. WTF? He was an ass, but he always willing to explain his reasoning and help others. But now he's gone? Wonder what happened? And now his advice is disrespected, too? WTFF?
    3. Since I can't get help in the BC, I went elsewhere and worked a ton on my own, especially about flatting ip and from the blinds. I will report some of what find over the coming days. Also, this "equity" idea is often bullshit. Just because you have equity doesn't necessarily mean you have playable hand.
    4. I got tons of help from Keith who typed up some notes from some things he's been working on during a mini-challenge where he's playing the nano's for a while. I appreciate his help, but (unfortunately for me learning when and how to flat/float), his notes focus more on aggression.


    And a bit of a rant:

    Sometimes, I'm a real dumbass, I admit it. But I am tired of "poker platitudes." I've seen so many different styles work, from nitty to laggy, and work over tons of hands. I've decided I'm going to take what I know and what I feel I do best, and experiment like crazy and do the maths and work on ranges and villain profiles and get my HUD in order, and I'm going to put together a game of Robb-poker, combo by combo (Shania?), position by position, merged range by polarized range. I'm going to do it at the nano's and improve it by tweaking it as I move up.

    I don't give a flying furry what people think. I've been inhibited about what to post and how to play for too damn long. It doesn't matter if anyone on FTR or in the BC is impressed with me, it just matters if I win and know why the hell it's happening, so I can fix the problem(s) when I'm losing. I want a flexible game that can open up or tighten up when needed, and understand how to use all aspects of game play to win more: aggression, passivity, table selection, villain profiling, table starting, not tilting, br management - the whole deal.

    There's a problem with being a BC-trained robot, with a TAGG-std game you don't understand because you've never properly studied, and the problem is that you get up around 25nl/50nl and you can no longer beat the games you're playing in. That's not gonna be me.

    When I get to 25nl again, I'm gonna be there strong, winning and wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    now I'm on loose, action-filled tables which are absolutely PERFECT for a TAGG approach, and I'm not playing TAGG-std poker. I'm ldo if you want to play laggy, table select to find nits, TAGG wannabes and weak-tighties. If you're table selecting laggy, why not open a small strong range of hands and camp on the nuts? Only open up when (if?) you stop getting action.

    So I've learned some things this week:
    • Play the game you've table-selected for, dumbass!
    • Reversing, I can table-select for the game I want to practice.
    • I'm very much aiming at mid 20's vpip, not 28+
    • I need to work on calling ranges.
    • I am still (relative to my opponent's) very good HU, and need to focus on that rather than "volume" during sessions, especially where I'm running bad. Go with what works.
    smart

    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    Frustrating that FTR has devolved
    i'd like to say blame black friday, but who knows. There's been some weird stuff since ages, i thought that even before i was banned...

    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    but when you ask for help on preflop flatting ranges, the thread goes silent. We used to have experienced players who would explain their reasoning.
    still a few people posting good stuff as well though, which i am hugely grateful for - d0zer/m2m/yaawn/fnord all spring immediately to mind

    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    Certain players I respect are disrespected these days on FTR. I can mention half a dozen, but I'll just mention Spoon. WTF? He was an ass, but he always willing to explain his reasoning and help others.
    spoon backed up tough love with devoting a whole tonne of time to helping people and developing ftr resources. The hate seems absolutely stupid. Group dynamics are funny things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    I went elsewhere and worked a ton on my own, especially about flatting ip and from the blinds. I will report some of what find over the coming days. Also, this "equity" idea is often bullshit. Just because you have equity doesn't necessarily mean you have playable hand.
    probably the best thing you can do to get better at poker. I never do enough of it, even though i know it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    I've decided I'm going to take what I know and what I feel I do best, and experiment like crazy and do the maths and work on ranges and villain profiles and get my HUD in order, and I'm going to put together a game of Robb-poker, combo by combo (Shania?), position by position, merged range by polarized range. I'm going to do it at the nano's and improve it by tweaking it as I move up.

    I don't give a flying furry what people think. I've been inhibited about what to post and how to play for too damn long. It doesn't matter if anyone on FTR or in the BC is impressed with me, it just matters if I win and know why the hell it's happening, so I can fix the problem(s) when I'm losing. I want a flexible game that can open up or tighten up when needed, and understand how to use all aspects of game play to win more: aggression, passivity, table selection, villain profiling, table starting, not tilting, br management - the whole deal.
    gold

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