*** Werewolves and Vampires II: Gameplay Thread ***

[kiwiMark]

He's the last person we should be lynching today. I'm not explaining why.

I don't think he's going to get lynched.

[TLR]

He's the last person we should be lynching today. I'm not explaining why.

No I am not, I'm not explaining why

[crazzvette]

With almost 8 hours left to lynch today and it seems that the village will be losing another player . Looks to me that since i'm on the top of the hit list since :

I'm a woman and i need to go . (bigred)
Since she has votes today i'll go with it . (gater)
I'm top notch suspect and she is not getting any heat at this point . (tlr)


This is the best that the village can think of when there's baddies out there and i'm on the top of suspects , thats just to funny . I thought that we were to get the baddies , but i'm guessing that my grammar is worst then them , hummmm .

[TLR]

With almost 8 hours left to lynch today and it seems that the village will be losing another player . Looks to me that since i'm on the top of the hit list since :

I'm a woman and i need to go . (bigred)
Since she has votes today i'll go with it . (gater)
I'm top notch suspect and she is not getting any heat at this point . (tlr)


This is the best that the village can think of when there's baddies out there and i'm on the top of suspects , thats just to funny . I thought that we were to get the baddies , but i'm guessing that my grammar is worst then them , hummmm .

Crazzvette, who do you think the baddies are and why?

[bigred]

I'm going to keep my vote on crazz because she's done nothing to convince me otherwise. Her last post was more of a whine than a defense. Oh, I clearly also hate all wimenz and must eliminate them and so on.

[bigred]

JKDS, why do you think I am a good lynch candidate? Ong spelled out what he saw and although he is wrong I can at least follow his logic. You just seem to be jumping on the bandwagon.

Since crazyv is my top suspect and she already has some votes I will go with a lynch crazyv for now, but could be convinced to switch to either vinland or gizmo.

Yeah. I think Vinland is next on my lynch list. You know, unless we can get you killed, Gator.

[OngBonga]

I don't think he's going to get lynched.

Like I say, a wasted vote. You should vote for whoever you think is wolfiest amongst the leading lynch targets. If you're voting for someone you don't think is going to get lynched, why bother voting at all? All votes like this do is spread the vote more evenly around the village, which can allow for easier wolf manipulation of lynches.

[crazzvette]

With the known baddies that are out of this game :

Justin
Jackvance
Stacks
Rong
Jyms

They have almost all have voted for me at one time or another witch brings to my thought that if i was a baddy , why would any of them vote for me ?
In the other hand , all these people have not voted once for Vinland which seems to me to be a baddy and maybe on there team .
Boog and Gater seemed to get a vote but with every vote got rescinded and never got to be lynched from there own team mates .

These would be my best of guesses at villagers :

Crazzvette
Nightgizmo
Kiwi
Tlr
Bigred

[OngBonga]

Ok so I die tonight, I'm still thinking most likely vamp team is vinland with gator as turncoat.

Bigred looks like the wolf to me, though I'm not confident. If not, well gizmo and JKDS are pretty suspect.

I think crazv is a villager tbh.

[OngBonga]

Even more convinced crazv is villager after that post.

[OngBonga]

If not, well gizmo and JKDS are pretty suspect.

I meant to add boog in here, don't forget about boog!

[TLR]

With the known baddies that are out of this game :

Justin
Jackvance
Stacks
Rong
Jyms

They have almost all have voted for me at one time or another witch brings to my thought that if i was a baddy , why would any of them vote for me ?
In the other hand , all these people have not voted once for Vinland which seems to me to be a baddy and maybe on there team .
Boog and Gater seemed to get a vote but with every vote got rescinded and never got to be lynched from there own team mates .

These would be my best of guesses at villagers :

Crazzvette
Nightgizmo
Kiwi
Tlr
Bigred

Is crazzvette an honorary graduate of the BID school of werewolf?

[TLR]

Ok so I die tonight, I'm still thinking most likely vamp team is vinland with gator as turncoat.

Bigred looks like the wolf to me, though I'm not confident. If not, well gizmo and JKDS are pretty suspect.

I think crazv is a villager tbh.

I dont think we should lynch BR

Crazzvette is not doing anything to defend herself, I do not know if this is due to incompetence, indifference or strategy

My preferred lynch orders
1. JKDS
2. JKDS
3. Vinland
4. Crazzvette

[TLR]

I also forgot about Boog
make it
5. Boog

[crazzvette]

I dont think we should lynch BR

Crazzvette is not doing anything to defend herself, I do not know if this is due to incompetence, indifference or strategy

My preferred lynch orders
1. JKDS
2. JKDS
3. Vinland
4. Crazzvette
5. Boog

I agree that i'm still up in the air with Bigred but , my gut feelings on him is that he is a villager .
Defend my self ? I've done nothing wrong to defend but i'll have to admit that i'm not the smartest woman around . If i had to make my top picks for lynching , they would be in this order somewhat :

1. Vinland
2. Gater
3. Gizmo
4. JKDS
5. Boog

[bigred]

Ok so I die tonight, I'm still thinking most likely vamp team is vinland with gator as turncoat.

Bigred looks like the wolf to me, though I'm not confident. If not, well gizmo and JKDS are pretty suspect.

I think crazv is a villager tbh.

Lol, ong gonna ong.

I'm down with the first part of your post, though.

[bigred]

rescind crazz

lynch vinland

I;m more interested in the information his corpse reveals than craz now. I liked her defense post.

[GatorJH]

whatever. Like I said I could lynch either so rescind crazyv, lynch vinland

With that done, the ONLY time Jyms voted for her was with his first post then he rescinded less than a half hour later. He also made a post later defending his switch that looked wolfish to me, because of his reasoning. I would have to find the posts for specifics and just don't have the time right now cuz I am late for a meeting. I will find them tonight and post them.

[JKDS]

JKDS, why do you think I am a good lynch candidate? Ong spelled out what he saw and although he is wrong I can at least follow his logic. You just seem to be jumping on the bandwagon.
.

Search walls made by me for your name in large font.

[NightGizmo]

Been a busy weekend (out celebrating my birthday, also took today off from work and I'm recovering again from a late night). For now, I like a Vinland lynch because of already stated reasons. I also don't get why kiwi is sticking to his TLR lynch -- TLR is a pretty likely villager in my book. I could easily switch my vote to kiwi.

lynch vinland

Life goes back to normal tomorrow, I'll be back at my computer all day again.

[crazzvette]

Been a busy weekend (out celebrating my birthday, also took today off from work and I'm recovering again from a late night). For now, I like a Vinland lynch because of already stated reasons. I also don't get why kiwi is sticking to his TLR lynch -- TLR is a pretty likely villager in my book. I could easily switch my vote to kiwi.

lynch vinland

Life goes back to normal tomorrow, I'll be back at my computer all day again.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY , sorry it's late but i must of lost my invitation in the mail . Here's to you in hopes to a speedy recovery of your hangover from a great time with friends and family . Vinland is my first suspect that was on my list but i'm still unsure about Kiwi but maybe being a villager . With that being said , my vote would be :

lynch Vinland

[Vinland]

Alight a few people want to string me up

My votes:
Jyms - ended up baddie
Stax - ended up baddie
Bikes- was villager

JV voted to lynch me and he was a baddie
I never voted for or convinced others to go for Ong or shotty who ended up villagers

I shadowed Ong's post but why not? He mentioned the chellekill was prob hunting but a post or two after ongs comment people still were mentioning their surprise at the kill so I felt I should say it again

You guys need to take a better look at gator imo.
Village, we lose Ong and if you lose me you are down quite a bit
Take a good look obv at the people on my band wagon
My thought: gator, craz, gizmo, boog

[Vinland]

lynch crazz

Lolvillage
What's funny is that I have been completely honest throughout the game

[OngBonga]

Well for my part I'm confident there's a wolf between vinland and crazv purely due to the chelle kill, but of course a thinking reg might kill chelle just to make the village think it was a noob. That would be the work of gator or TLR. But gator is turncoat imo, so he isn't controlling noms. And TLR is pretty much lock villager afaic.

Crazv has convinced me she's villager more than vinland, so I'm sticking.

[Vinland]

Ghey guys. Just fn ghey
You villagers are gonna be pissed

[Vinland]

Look at my voting record people. Shitballs use your heads
Bad mistake guys

[Vinland]

There's no one else more fishy than me?
Gator? Jkds?

[JKDS]

Lolwtf? rescind gizmo, lynch vinland. If u are a secret role, u should out. Otherwise I see no reason why its a huge mistake.

[JKDS]

rescind nvm, forgot there was a vig. Sound legit imo

[kiwiMark]

rescind tlr

what is this crazyman defensiveness vinland, it makes you seem super bad-guy-y to me. i would vote to lynch you but this is going crazy quick and discussion is healthy

[Vinland]

Umm so if I said nothing and sat around that would seem more villagerish to you?
If I was the wolf I sure as shit wouldn't have nom chelle how was still trying to kill jyms...that's more something craz would do

Tlr, did Ongs defense post seem wolfy? We know how that turned out

[Vinland]

Sorry meant Kiwi, does my defense seem more wolfy than Ongs?

[OngBonga]

Well, looks to me like we have either wolf or vig on the ropes. We gotta follow this through now.

[NightGizmo]

rescind vinland

Although I don't know if it matters -- I think JKDS cast the majority vote above before he rescinded.

[OngBonga]

I'll have a count.

[OngBonga]

Yeah he hit six, so at that I bow out and wish the village good luck.

[Vinland]

Gaylord fockers

Anyway it was fun
Very interesting game

[JKDS]

So were you the vig? I had no idea my vote killed you, and didnt think of that till it was too late. I just knew that if you were a secret special then you wouldnt be trying to push me

[BooG690]

It ain't nighttime yet so I can come in and say, you're fishy as shit JKDS. YOU. MUST. GO.

[TLR]

It ain't nighttime yet so I can come in and say, you're fishy as shit JKDS. YOU. MUST. GO.

QFT

[GatorJH]

It ain't nighttime yet so I can come in and say, you're fishy as shit JKDS. YOU. MUST. GO.

My thoughts EXACTLY!!!! Two days in a row he makes weird, end of day moves (and did the same thing on day 1 even though that nabbed a baddie) and then that last comment was like "woot woot, did I get the vig?"

[GatorJH]

Search walls made by me for your name in large font.

Day 1 - you never mentioned me
Day 2 - Only time you mentioned me was when you posted who voted for who
Day 3 - Again, no mention of Gator
Day 4 - Oh look, nothing about Gator
Day 5 - One vague mention of what would have happened if I would have come in with a tie vote, then one item where you show two of my posts that prove I am the TC and follow the same thought process that Ong had already stated.

So I ask again, why do YOU think I am a wolf other than regurgitating other's thoughts?

I am revising my numbers on you to be:

75% - baddie
25% - villager with secret role

[wufwugy]

okay day was over 56 minutes ago, let me count stuff up

[wufwugy]

If you look up the definition of fail in the dictionary, you'll find a game of werewolf where the seer, necromancer, and vigilante were all lynched

The Living

bigred
boog
crazzvette
gator
jkds
kiwimark
nightgizmo
tlr

The Dead

JustinSKS Werewolf lynched on Day 1
Rong Vampire nom'd by Werewolves on Night 1
Joker131 Sorcerer modkilled on Night 1
OngBonga Seer lynched on Day 2
Jackvance Werewolf killed by Vampires on Night 2
Jyms Vampire shot by Vigilante on Night 2
OngBonga Spawned Villager revived by Necromancer on Night 2
Bikes Villager lynched on Day 3
Pascal Villager nom'd by Werewolves on Night 3
Necromancer Shotglass lynched on Day 4
Turncoat Werewolf Stacks shot by Vigilante on Night 4
Chelle Villager killed by Vampires on Night 4
Vinland Vigilante lynched on Day 5
OngBonga Spawn auto-died on Day 5

The Village

1 Werewolf
1 Vampire
1 Turncoat Vampire
5 Villagers

It is now Night 5. Werewolf please PM me by 3PM PST tomorrow. Y'all may talk but not hunting

[kiwiMark]

Umm so if I said nothing and sat around that would seem more villagerish to you?
If I was the wolf I sure as shit wouldn't have nom chelle how was still trying to kill jyms...that's more something craz would do

Tlr, did Ongs defense post seem wolfy? We know how that turned out

It wasn't anything to do with voting/content evidence either way, it was just your posts seemed desperate/afraid in a way that seemed to me unlikely to be a regular villager and either someone with more to lose (baddie/special), because in the only other game I played I was vig and found myself in a similar situation.

I have like 0.8 games experience and know nothing about you so wasn't willing to trust anything to that hunch (even if you hadn't been bandwagoning so sus quickly), but people have been hasselling me to contribute more, and that's the strongest feeling I'd had thus far.

[kiwiMark]

ah shit it's officially night, sorry. iunno feel free to delete the above or let it stand or whatever is customary

[wufwugy]

TLR didn't choose the dead life; the dead life chose him

The Living

bigred
boog
crazzvette
gator
jkds
kiwimark
nightgizmo

The Dead

JustinSKS Werewolf lynched on Day 1
Rong Vampire nom'd by Werewolves on Night 1
Joker131 Sorcerer modkilled on Night 1
OngBonga Seer lynched on Day 2
Jackvance Werewolf killed by Vampires on Night 2
Jyms Vampire shot by Vigilante on Night 2
OngBonga Spawned Villager revived by Necromancer on Night 2
Bikes Villager lynched on Day 3
Pascal Villager nom'd by Werewolves on Night 3
Necromancer Shotglass lynched on Day 4
Turncoat Werewolf Stacks shot by Vigilante on Night 4
Chelle Villager killed by Vampires on Night 4
Vinland Vigilante lynched on Day 5
OngBonga Spawn auto-died on Day 5
TLR Villager has been nom'd by the Werewolves on Night 5

The Village

1 Werewolf
1 Vampire
1 Turncoat Vampire
4 Villagers

It is now Day 6, which will end approximately 49 hours from now on Thursday at 3PM PST. 4 votes to lynch

[BooG690]

Right. So nobody bold today until we discuss some shit. That means you crazz and JKDS since you two enjoy playing dumb.

[BooG690]

Oh, and here's what I have to say. JKDS is a wolf vampire. Let's lynch him.

[JKDS]

I cant help being in class and not seeing ong's vote. I saw 4 votes and a story inconsistent with being a secret special. My b. What is the point in rescinding it like 2sec later if i did it intentionally?

Boog is still villager, and anyone that thinks otherwise is an idiot. His posts dont fit a vamp, wolf, nor turncoat for reasons ive already stated.

Gator fits the profile of a vamp TC and only a vamp tc pretty well, for reasons already stated.

Gizmo is likely the last wolf, for reasons already stated.

Crazy v could be vamp. But so could kiwi/bigred. I have no clue about those two.

If kiwi or bigred are baddies, we'll figure it out later.

[JKDS]

If i had to guess, actually, kiwi seems very much like a noob villager rather than a noob wolf. NO freakin clue at all on bigred. And cv has so much weird shit going on that i just dont even know. Out of these three, who kills chelle? Thats the question we need to answer later, and it should be sitting in the back of our minds.

RIGHT DIDDY MEOW though, we're lynching one of Me, Gator, and Gizmo. I may survive, i may not, but that is where the focus should be.

[GatorJH]

I seriously don't get how I HAVE to be the TC but whatever. I agree with a couple of JKDS' points in that I think Kiwi is more of a useless villager than anything and I seriously don't know what to think about Bigred. I am leaning more toward wolf than villager because he tends to be a bit more active as a villager.

Not sure what I think of Boog though I too think he is more likely villager than baddie.

As for JKDS' his posts are so over-the-top that he either has to be a villager or he is playing the "I dare you to think I am a wolf based on my play" type of game. I go back and forth on him with each post.

I would have to say Gizmo and crazyv should be the two most discussed today.

[kiwiMark]

confirmed useless villager. if certain other parties would be a liiittle bit more honest maybe we could get this wrapped up faster.

[crazzvette]

Been looking over the last couple of days post . One thing for sure is that the baddies are getting the best of us , and i'm not happy with that . It seems that everyone has issues with everyone and no one is going to admit to being a baddy and it's starting to be a crap shoot .

Gizmo has issues and it's hard to ignore them .
Gator puts the blame on other people and i wonder about him .
Kiwi seems to be hardly around and don't post much which confuses me about his roll .
Bigred is very defenseless when being argued and likes to criticize people about whats being said .
Boog seems to be attentive to whats going on around here but eager to point fingers .
Jkds special roll and playing methods seems to be very unique and daring .

Crazzvette(me) plays confused because it's a confusing game . With the way people play and say things in a matter that makes no sense or that sometimes is understandable . Then at other times it's just so far fetched that it's hard not to believe in it or don't know what to believe . Overall i've never pushed for anyone to be lynched and i've been with the majority on all the votes because i'm just not sure on anyones roll in this game because it's all new to me and i don't want anyones blood on my hands .

[NightGizmo]

Oh, and here's what I have to say. JKDS is a wolf vampire. Let's lynch him.

I definitely agree. I don't believe that he's a special.

[NightGizmo]

Gizmo has issues and it's hard to ignore them .
Gator puts the blame on other people and i wonder about him ...
Bigred is very defenseless when being argued and likes to criticize people about whats being said .

What specific issues do I have that you can't ignore? What specifically about Gator do you wonder about? When was bigred "defenseless" when arguing? You need to start sharing your thoughts, not just spouting vague nonsense like this.

Overall i've never pushed for anyone to be lynched and i've been with the majority on all the votes because i'm just not sure on anyones roll in this game because it's all new to me and i don't want anyones blood on my hands .

This is what is concerning -- you just jump on whatever bandwagon is available and don't bother to explain any of your thoughts. That is very suspicious -- you care enough to vote, but nobody knows why you're voting.

Except for the absent-wolf lynch on Day 1, no other baddies have been killed by the village. So your voting actions aren't helping you. It makes it easy to think that you're a wolf/vamp just going along with a bandwagon because it's not someone on your team.

[NightGizmo]

confirmed useless villager. if certain other parties would be a liiittle bit more honest maybe we could get this wrapped up faster.

lol, you're right, this game would be so much easier if all the baddies just told us their role!

[GatorJH]

@kiwi - being called the village idiot doesn't mean you can just sit back and not provide input

@crazyv - guess what? This game is all about pointing fingers. You have to look for small things that the players do that will give you a clue about their role. Sometimes you may get it wrong but at least TRY to put the pieces of the puzzle together.

[crazzvette]

To be perfectly honest with y'all , never liked high school because i was always picked on . I dropped out in grade 9 and never looked back . I stay home and play my poker and look for free products on certain sites all day . Even thou i have my suspicions about people i've never been a people person much . There's now 7 of us left , 3 baddies and 4 villagers , the only person i have complete trust in , is myself . With all that , who are the 3 baddies and the other 3 villagers i have no really clue who is who , grrrrrrrrrr , lol .

[GatorJH]

The problem with the line that you and Kiwi are taking is that it puts the village in a bad spot.

[BooG690]

To be perfectly honest with y'all , never liked high school because i was always picked on . I dropped out in grade 9 and never looked back . I stay home and play my poker and look for free products on certain sites all day . Even thou i have my suspicions about people i've never been a people person much . There's now 7 of us left , 3 baddies and 4 villagers , the only person i have complete trust in , is myself . With all that , who are the 3 baddies and the other 3 villagers i have no really clue who is who , grrrrrrrrrr , lol .

She's gotta be a troll. Anywho, can we lynch JKDS now. He seriously can't be trusted. He says he's a secret special that isn't worth all too much to the village. His posts will always have a shadow of a doubt to them. He has to be lynched. We'll find where he stands and gain a ton of information from doing so. He's a wolf >65% of the time.

[wufwugy]

Day 6 ends under 23 hours from now at 3PM PST tomorrow

[BooG690]

Well, I'm on my way to work, then going out, then sleeping so I may not get a chance to post after now.

Lynch JKDS

[JKDS]

Boog, no. Whats this wolf 65% of the time nonsense? When your wrong, and i flip villager, were 2v:1w:3v. Thats a loss for the village. Just saying. We are not gambling on me just because youre paranoid.

Has anyone even asked wuf if the role was real or not? Would that help?

@Wuf: Are there secret roles?

Gizmo is the best lynch. If you dont think so, explain why. Stacks protected him, he sided with stacks to protect jv, and hes knowledgable enough to make the night kills fit.

[JKDS]

I forgot i didnt vote

lynch gizmo

[JKDS]

Also in case anyone missed it, we're not lynching out of kiwi crazy bigred because its more likely the other players are a wolf or vamp tc than it is that one of them is a vamp just based on probability. Also, we know nothing about them, and would be going blind.

Who do we pick? Why? For fluff? Have you seen the hints it looks like gator dropped to jyms? I encourage you guys to read through the thread and think that gizmo or gator is a baddie and tell me why it doesnt fit. If you can do that, we'll gamble on the other group. Otherwise one of them is our best bet

[NightGizmo]

lynch jkds

Ridiculous that you cobble together a tenuous argument against me and then try to make it seem self-evident that I'm the best lynch. And obviously I don't believe your special role.

[NightGizmo]

JKDS may be right that kiwi is just a clueless villager -- unfortunately, kiwi hasn't given us much information to work with, so we're kind of guessing there.

But crazz definitely seems like a baddie and JKDS has continued to put her in his villager column. She is fairly active in the thread despite saying literally nothing, which doesn't seem like a disinterested villager. All of her posts are just stating obvious facts ("these are the rules" or "this is the vote count") or just making vague statements that mean nothing.

I think it's more likely that JKDS is the vamp turncoat and has been trying to keep heat off crazz, the remaining vampire.

[GatorJH]

I have to say I agree with JKDS here that he is a bad lynch today and still think either gizmo or crazyv are our best bet.

lynch gizmo

[GatorJH]

@Wuf: Are there secret roles?

I already asked and he didn't (and shouldn't) answer

[GatorJH]

Have you seen the hint"s" it looks like gator dropped to jyms?

I have seen one post mentioned that is shaky at best so I would love to see all of these "hints".

[JKDS]

@Gizmo: Your vote after i ask for a confirmation that secret roles exist is very telling. You very clearly have no interest in whether that gets resolved or not. My guess, is becasue your a wolf and thus dont care about information that would completely clear me.

Also no, crazy v is not in my villager column. Boog and kiwi are there. If you're asking which of crazy and bigred id lynch sooner, itd be crazy. But just barely. Neither has done anything.

@Gator: I count the two posts as two hints, but can see how it may look like one.

[NightGizmo]

@Gizmo: Your vote after i ask for a confirmation that secret roles exist is very telling. You very clearly have no interest in whether that gets resolved or not. My guess, is becasue your a wolf and thus dont care about information that would completely clear me.

It's already been asked and ignored. Plus, I don't see wuf responding to that question, regardless of the answer.

[BooG690]

I was ready to switch my vote to Gizmo just because but, hey...

rescind boog, lynch shotty

3 way tie lol!

2-way tie lol!

[GatorJH]

How Bigred and/or Crazyv vote will be pretty telling IMO.