*** Super Meta Werewolf Gameplay Thread ***

[a500lbgorilla]

What info can we possibly give them? Our opinions of DTB being a villager? So what? Who we are suspicious of now? How does that pan out 48-72 hours from now?

And what are they going to do with that info? Confuse us with a kill? The only people who are going to be bait for stuff like that are the ones who ask things like, "why gator over rilla or tlr?" Well, they've got to kill someone.

Also, who cares that the village doesn't get the night phase to reread? Insights come when I'm active in the thread, and usually fuel me to going back through and piecing things together, not during homework time at night.

Anyone who says we should pipe down for fear of what the wolves may do are missing something or trying to put down the roadwork for taking the first 24 off.

[a500lbgorilla]

Even if they killed me now, with all the info I've put into the thread, it'll probably elicit one thought-line in most peoples posts and then occupy their minds no longer. No one is going to try to solve the game through the lens of my posts, so what is anyone saying with "they get more info"?

[jyms]

I would think that the wolf strategy should almost always be to keep the village guessing, and killing the people that are more assuredly villagers keeps the village guessing and makes it a little tough to show you have ideas of wolfiness during this time. But something as simple as bolding someone that is a villager because of something "wolfy" and being eaten could make the village become even more lost. That doesn't help us much now does it.

[a500lbgorilla]

I would think that the wolf strategy should almost always be to keep the village guessing, and killing the people that are more assuredly villagers keeps the village guessing and makes it a little tough to show you have ideas of wolfiness during this time. But something as simple as bolding someone that is a villager because of something "wolfy" and being eaten could make the village become even more lost. That doesn't help us much now does it.

If I died, would you vote JKDS on the back of it?

No. You might vote JKDS. But on the back of other stuff.

And the first 24 is a period where its harder to be a wolf, and therefore easier to find wolves.

[jyms]

I wouldn't lynch anyone on the back of your ramblings this game, so far you have remained low and out of the spotlight, all in all a great strat for both sides since as a village we never string up inactives fast enough and always let them back into the discussion.

[a500lbgorilla]

Or to extend it, would me dying legitimize rong as a possible wolf?

[a500lbgorilla]

I wouldn't lynch anyone on the back of your ramblings this game, so far you have remained low and out of the spotlight, all in all a great strat for both sides since as a village we never string up inactives fast enough and always let them back into the discussion.

Right, no one dying is going to sway our best path. So what info are we afraid of giving the wolves?

There is none.

[Hoopy]

If everyone waits until the wolves kill someone, that just means we have a 48hr day instead of 72hrs. Beside the wolves have perfect info this game.

rilla is looking more like a villager after his last few posts.

[OngBonga]

What are you guys babbling about? Who cares if the wolves get an extra 24 hours of chit chat to assess before they nom? I don't.

Ok so let's look at the lynch... gabe jyms rilla dan... all piled onto banana in the closing stages of the day... I'm willing to bet there's a wolf or two here.

Let's start with a lynch dan

[Hoopy]

Lets consider this, Gator was nommed on night 1. The only real post he made was about feeling suspicious of TLR for suggesting a spidy lynch then not following through. Also Gator and Dan played as wolves together a while back, gator could read him well as a wolf if I remember rightly.

Hmmmm......

[OngBonga]

Dan was most suspect on that late wagon imo, just because of his "didn't see that vote" or whatever he said. Also I've noticed a couple of times he's pointed his finger at me with nothing more than "suspicious of ong".

jyms is also someone I've got my eye on, but rilla might be right about him being likely villager due to him profile checking and other lame shit. Can't remember him doing that last game. So if jyms is a wolf, he got advised to do that by someone good, ie rilla. It's possible, but I'm not going down that road yet.

[gabe]

rescind lolz
lynch pascal

just wanted to get this in in case i get nommed. pascal's summary of things without addressing the #1 bandwagon of the time dtb (who turned out to be innocent) was a good way to get us off his trail.

[jyms]

So if jyms is a wolf, he got advised to do that by someone good, ie rilla.

I take offense to this remark. I will dance on your wolfy grave

[OngBonga]

What you're saying you're good enough to do it on your own back? Fine, you can be a wolf pretty easy then bahahahaha.

[gabe]

jkds is suspicious. he got a pass early but he could've been the converted wolf. that's shooting for a small chance though since its unlikely he was a wolf original

[gabe]

rilla hoopy jyms ong dranger gabe -- all villagers, all targets to get nommed

[jyms]

I think there are lots of people that could weigh in, all considered good players and all not posting. The wolves kill will really make a difference in our thoughts I think. Also, I'm not quite on board with gabes list so far.

[jyms]

And I will be posting more, not less it seems. I downloaded twilight princess and my kid is hooked so I will be sitting at the computer helping him play through all weekend it looks like.

[Pascal]

rescind pascal

lynch dtb

i dont think the pascal wagon is very telling AT ALL (although i still want to lynch him). you saying its telling seems like youre trying to pave the way to kill more villagers, like what you did to the spidey voters earlier

DTB doesn't look that wolfy to me, I think his logic is pretty solid and the spidyberge thing could be throwing up a lot of false positives so I don't think we should necessarily overanalysise it.

I'm going to stick with lynch jyms, his first posts in this thread still look really wolfy to me.

If you're trying to say I avoided discussing the DTB wagon for sinister reasons, your argument doesn't make sense. TBH I figured my post was getting ridic long and no one would read it if it was too detailed so I tried to include less stuff.

Looking back, you lynched DTB, jyms lynched DTB and Gizmo lynched DTB. Hmmmmm

[OngBonga]

JKDS is indeed suspicious. He was this quiet last game at this stage. Maybe he's dreaming up what crazy special he can be again.

Looking back, you lynched DTB, jyms lynched DTB and Gizmo lynched DTB. Hmmmmm

I doubt jyms and gabe are both wolves. Just too blatant. I think one is a wolf shadowing the other.

[jyms]

Looking back, you lynched DTB, jyms lynched DTB and Gizmo lynched DTB. Hmmmmm

I actually rescinded and bolded Lolz after DTB threw himself on the sword and made it a tie between him and lolz

Ya I don't see a lot of defense either. Show of faith from me,

REscind DTB and lynch Lolz

but gala, lolz, rilla, boog, rong and ong all jumped on at the end

[a500lbgorilla]

Notice I voted late for DTB when my vote was already on DTB.

[OngBonga]

I actually rescinded and bolded Lolz after DTB threw himself on the sword and made it a tie between him and lolz

but gala, lolz, rilla, boog, rong and ong all jumped on at the end

Oh yeah you changed from banana to lolz, not the other way round. And I suspected it was because you were afraid of the heat you get when banana flips villager. So fuck knows what I'm doing on dan's wagon right now, he can wait.

rescind dan
lynch jyms

Also, I didn't "jump on at the end", I was on banana all day long untl then end, then jumped off.

[dranger7070]

Don't forget gabe there now my wolfy friend.

[dranger7070]

That was directed at jyms.

[jyms]

Oh yeah you changed from banana to lolz, not the other way round. And I suspected it was because you were afraid of the heat you get when banana flips villager. So fuck knows what I'm doing on dan's wagon right now, he can wait.

rescind dan
lynch jyms

Also, I didn't "jump on at the end", I was on banana all day long untl then end, then jumped off.

So you did the same thing you're going to hang me for? Flipping on the banana train? haha

[jyms]

Don't forget gabe there now my wolfy friend.

pascal said gabe and me and giz. I mentioned all the rest, my wolfy friend

[OngBonga]

So you did the same thing you're going to hang me for? Flipping on the banana train? haha

I flipped, sure, but I didn't tell the village that I was gonna get lynched next before changing my vote. I wasn't worried about being next target if we killed a villager. Your switch looked a lot like you were worried.

[jyms]

I was, after DTB posted, I felt he sounded less wolfy than I had thought. I liked his defense and it turned out I was right. In fact I have said a lot of things, all of which can be looked up. None of which will help you if you lynch me.

[OngBonga]

If I could believe you flipped off banana because you thought he was looking less wolfy, I would let up on you, because that's why I backed off.

I'm pretty sure I'm next lynch but I would hope that there are bigger enigmas than me for now.

But this was before he made his defence post that convinced me. You were clearly having "doubts" before I was.

[jyms]

I was having doubts. I said that.

[rong]

Ok so let's look at the lynch... gabe jyms rilla dan... all piled onto banana in the closing stages of the day... I'm willing to bet there's a wolf or two here.

Let's start with a lynch dan

I stated for most of the day that I was happy lyching either lolzzz or DTB. I also said if it comes down to a choice of the two, I'd decide at that point. It did and I did. I even quoted the comment that made me swing towards DTB.

Also, If you're saying that I did this because I am a wolf and I was protecting my wolf buddy lolzzz (which is the only way this makes any snese), then I would never switch at the last minute, in fact I'd gladly accept the cover I would have received from letting my prob gonna be lynched anyway buddy die whilst I was on his wagon for ages and didn't change at the last minute when I could. Also, surely it would make more sense to lynch him first to test this theory as he isn't participating much and I am, meaning I'm more likely to trip up as a wolf and also more likely to be useful as a villager.

But note I prefer you think the theory is shit rather than we lynch him to test the theory, as if he shows up wolf I'm suddenly tied to him by a shit theory.

[rong]

Lets consider this, Gator was nommed on night 1. The only real post he made was about feeling suspicious of TLR for suggesting a spidy lynch then not following through. Also Gator and Dan played as wolves together a while back, gator could read him well as a wolf if I remember rightly.

Hmmmm......

That is complete bullshit!

Find me one instance of Gator getting a successful read on me as a wolf!

[Pascal]

I was, after DTB posted, I felt he sounded less wolfy than I had thought. I liked his defense and it turned out I was right. In fact I have said a lot of things, all of which can be looked up. None of which will help you if you lynch me.

Another "please let me live and I'll tell you what I think, but you'll have to wait a few days"...

[wufwugy]

Wolves have nom'd TLR. He was a villager

The Living

bigred
lolz
ongbonga
pascal
jkds
rong
hoopy
gabe
boog
rilla
jyms
gizmo
dranger
galapogos

The Dead

shotty lynched on Day 1
gator nom'd on Night 1
crazzvette modkilled on Day 2
dtb lynched on Day 2
tlr nom'd on Day/Night 3

The Roles

10 villagers
4 wolves

Y'all have 48 hours now. 8 votes to lynch.

Also we won't be doing the talking/voting nights again. I instituted it partly because I think the advantage for either team is a wash, but I have since realized that when it's down to the wire, the advantage for the villagers will be colossal. Letting you know this in advance, and thanks for trying it out with me

[rong]

Dan was most suspect on that late wagon imo, just because of his "didn't see that vote" or whatever he said.

I didn't know if my vote was the final nail in dtb's coffin and as I hadn't seen Gabe's flipflopping I wanted the truth out there from the start before his flipflopping could be somehow used against me. Not sure how it could, but stating that I wasn't aware of say now would be far less likely to be believed that me saying it at the time.

Also I've noticed a couple of times he's pointed his finger at me with nothing more than "suspicious of ong".

And now we have the real reason for your suspicion. I do find you out of sorts. You have been playing differently. I am suspicious of you. I just don't have enough to build a case against you yet, but if you show up wolf I won't be at all surprised.

[rong]

Hmmm didn't tlr wanna lynch Ong?

[rong]

Actualy that's kinda irrelevant, TLR is a good kill for any wolves.

[wufwugy]

Oh and if you want explanation for why it will be colossal advantage for villagers in late game, it's because if we're in the frequent scenario of four villagers and one wolf left, then one villager is lynched, normally another villager would die by nom before more could opine on who the last wolf is, but with the talking nights the extra living villager will be able to give thoughts before he dies, and the wolf nom choice won't be able to counter the huge advantage in having an extra villager voice at that time

[rong]

My top suspicions involve Ong, Jyms & JKDS.

But, Boog, Pascal & Lolzzz could also be problematic down to post counts. Note that JKDS is not much ahead of them.

[Hoopy]

That is complete bullshit!

Find me one instance of Gator getting a successful read on me as a wolf!

I looked but didn't find, guess I was rong......ba dum tss.

Actualy that's kinda irrelevant, TLR is a good kill for any wolves.

Why do you think that?

TLR was my best wolf pick coming into today, rethink is in order.

[rong]

Why do you think that?

TLR was my best wolf pick coming into today, rethink is in order.

As an end game villager TLR is always good to have around. He sees through bullshit well and is respected in the game enough to be able to challenge other big players.

[jyms]

Wolves not taking out gabe is suspicious as hell? Either he's a mile off base or they have no idea how good he is.

[jyms]

And it also leads to a jyms, gabe lynch too. hmmm

[JKDS]

@Rilla: I dont know what game you've been playing, but this FTR ww game has players like ong. Players that will level the shit outta themselves about shit like this. Also, i highly doubt the wolves are affected at all by having to post privately and in the thread. They already do that, there is no added pressure. Further, who's wolf game is so shaky that they would be affected by this anyway?

You're counterargument is bad, and is highly suspicious that the only thing you've done this game is push it.

@Ong: Wheres your posts bro? You should have way more by this point in the game. You wolfin?

Now, the DTB wagon.

Rilla, Rong, Gabe, Boog, Gizmo, Jyms, gala, maybe more.

Interesting -- he left a few people off his list: DTB, lolz, bigred, TLR, rong.

I think we have a lot more to gain if DTB or pascal ends up being a wolf (that pretty much makes the other a wolf, too, imo).

From an information POV, I guess a DTB lynch is better than pascal simply because (assuming DTB is a wolf) pascal basically buried himself by massively deflecting from DTB. The reverse is less true -- if we lynch pascal and he's a wolf, we can't be 100% sure that DTB is a wolf that pascal was trying to protect or it was just a red herring in case pascal got lynched.

rescind lolzzz, lynch dtb

Rescind Dranger
Lynch DTB

Ya I don't see a lot of defense either. Show of faith from me,

REscind DTB and lynch Lolz

That makes me wanna lynch you more: rescind lolzzz lynch dtb

lynch dtb

Did we win?

These posts stick out. Jyms bailing on the dtb wagon makes him more likely town than any of the others. As to the rest, we just have a bunch of essentially random lynches. The reasoning isnt there for any of them, they're all just piggybacking on knowledge said already in the thread.

This is characteristic of a mislynch. A bunch of villagers lynching dtb for little reasoning, allows wolves to do exactly the same thing. I strongly believe at least 2 wolves are on DTB's wagon.

Im taking a look at gizmo; for his overly pointless explanation for the lynch, as well as rilla for his uselessness so far.

[OngBonga]

And now we have the real reason for your suspicion.

No dan, you're suspicious to me because of this...

I missed the whole Gabe flipflopping before I posted that btw

I disliked this more than the vote. The fact you find me suspicious is not why I'm biting back. It's just you haven't actually given a reason for your suspicions other than a vague link with shotty, which is disproven, and me being "out of sorts", which is kind of unfair. TLR made a similar comment, and sure through d1 I probably was out of sorts, but it was weekend and I was drinking. If being drunk gets me lynched, make sure you string up bigred next.

Yes I can't deny if I was wolf I would want TLR dead, but I'm glad you realise any wolf team would want him dead.

dan, you're behind jyms in my wolf list. I feel there's wolf activity in the closing stages of yesterday, so please don't be surprised if I try to push you to explain yourself. I don't doubt there's also villagers piling onto to banana, so I'm not suggesting it's a wolf tell. Just... I didn't like the distancing from gabe's vote.

[OngBonga]

@Ong: Wheres your posts bro? You should have way more by this point in the game. You wolfin?

Not sure if serious.

[a500lbgorilla]

lynch JKDS

What is suspicious about me pushing to increase the traffic and chatter during a period valuable to the village?

Was it the part where I pointed out that you were wrong?

Or the part where I lightly explained and you brushed it aside?

TLR also wolfing.

This is a period of time where wolves have to do double work and they're saying they won't be doing their first shift. ez game.

Wolves doing double work is wrong, and having 24 hours of talking actually makes their job easier.

rilla: Here's what I believe.
JKDS: You shouldn't believe that.

Or the part where I go much deeper in explaining my position?

The wolves have to do double work. Being a villager is natural. Being a wolf is work. They get no respite from being a wolf AND they have to do wolf work.

NightGizmo also wolfing.

If I died, would you vote JKDS on the back of it?

No. You might vote JKDS. But on the back of other stuff.

And the first 24 is a period where its harder to be a wolf, and therefore easier to find wolves.

Right, no one dying is going to sway our best path. So what info are we afraid of giving the wolves?

There is none.

And you blow it off again

You're counterargument is bad, and is highly suspicious that the only thing you've done this game is push it. .

'rilla: Allow me to explain why I believe what I believe.
JKDS: You should not believe what you believe and I find you suspect.

Why do words fail you so, JKDS? Why can't you explain why I am wrong? Stating that I'm wrong doesn't cut it.

Oh, is it because of players like ong? What do you or I care about him?

[gabe]

what about lynching nightgizmo? this post is real fishy: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2113101

if gizmo knew spidey was a wolf, at that point hes completely freerolling. and before that he was trying to lynch jkds..wtf? he admitted to doing the jkds lynch as a joke, and admits the first part is suspicious. yea.

also multiple times he brought up the fact he was a wolf last game, like hes trying to make us subconsciously think hes less likely to be one this game.

just the way he words things and attacks points makes me think he has alot of information and is trying to manipulate. also i think its suprising one of those from the village list i posted wasn't lynched. i think the only reason they werent attacked was because we're mistrusting someone. jyms fits this bill but nightgizmo fits it a little better since i thought he should be cleared earlier and ive agreed with him since.

who likes this one? he also hasnt been as active as we keep lynching villagers

rescind pascal
lynch nightgizmo

[a500lbgorilla]

I support lynching NightGizmo.

[gabe]

i think talking during the wolfnom period is new, no one has done it before, so it makes sense that people dont see eye-to-eye on it. hard to make a big judgement just on that but i see what youre saying. also i think its v v unlikely jkds started off as a wolf because of how he immediately went for spidey before there was any sign he could be inactive modkilled. this means if hes a wolf he has to be the 1/15 shot of being the villager converted into a wolf. nightgizmo is in the mix of the original 3 wolves which means theres more possibly games where gizmo is a wolf, if that makes sense

[a500lbgorilla]

i think talking during the wolfnom period is new, no one has done it before, so it makes sense that people dont see eye-to-eye on it. hard to make a big judgement just on that but i see what youre saying. also i think its v v unlikely jkds started off as a wolf because of how he immediately went for spidey before there was any sign he could be inactive modkilled. this means if hes a wolf he has to be the 1/15 shot of being the villager converted into a wolf. nightgizmo is in the mix of the original 3 wolves which means theres more possibly games where gizmo is a wolf, if that makes sense

what?

[a500lbgorilla]

He was on spidey for no reason. With no sign of life from spidey, spidey being a likely day 1 target behind his newness and his AFK'dness, I don't see much compelling reason to think JKDS can't be a wolf in that spot.

[JKDS]

You can say i blew it off as much as you like, but its clear that I explained why I think you're wrong. And yes, its suspicious that the only thing you've done this game is push a theory argument.

[a500lbgorilla]

Blown off again.

lynch JKDS

[gabe]

He was on spidey for no reason. With no sign of life from spidey, spidey being a likely day 1 target behind his newness and his AFK'dness, I don't see much compelling reason to think JKDS can't be a wolf in that spot.

he was on him 6 hours into the game. seems like that makes jkds unlikely to be an original wolf. im not ruling him out though

[rong]

He was on spidey for no reason. With no sign of life from spidey, spidey being a likely day 1 target behind his newness and his AFK'dness, I don't see much compelling reason to think JKDS can't be a wolf in that spot.

Agree with this, him being a noob in itself is reason enough to hide behind bolding him. It's just normal behavior. Especially as a few people have been saying "don't lynch the noob" lately in prev games, so you could bold him with the intention of letting the noobsavers win later in the day.

[gabe]

tbh i dont really see the case for lynching jkds. he disagreed with you, but the topic isnt that important either way. i could see how a reasonable villager could be on both sides of it. id be really happy to see gizmo lynched the more i reread

cmon village hop on it!! lets get a wolf. i dont see who else is viable

[gabe]

Agree with this, him being a noob in itself is reason enough to hide behind bolding him. It's just normal behavior. Especially as a few people have been saying "don't lynch the noob" lately in prev games, so you could bold him with the intention of letting the noobsavers win later in the day.

ya true. but still...whats the case for jkds? i agree he could've done this as a wolf but doesnt make me think hes likely to be one. i guess the fact hes usually more active makes a difference? i dont know

[OngBonga]

gabe, half an hour into last game, jkds' first post...

Lynch Jyms

Crazy v is an accepted member of the ftr community and is here to stay. Shes one of us now bro

jkds was turncoat, jyms was on his side.

I can support a jkds lynch too. Lol at him pointing at my post count and suggesting I'm not posting enough. Just lol. He's usually much more active. I'm 2nd behind jyms, jkds is at the bottom with the likes of boog.

rescind jyms
lynch jkds

[rong]

Agree the 24hr argument doesn't hold much water

[jyms]

Lynch Jyms

Crazy v is an accepted member of the ftr community and is here to stay. Shes one of us now bro

To clarify, JKDS knew that I was bolding Crazzy knowing that we were both Vampires that game and he was trying to signal us that he was the turncoat. Not sure if that is relevant or not, just clarifying for those that don't know

[gabe]

gabe, half an hour into last game, jkds' first post...



jkds was turncoat, jyms was on his side.

I can support a jkds lynch too. Lol at him pointing at my post count and suggesting I'm not posting enough. Just lol. He's usually much more active. I'm 2nd behind jyms, jkds is at the bottom with the likes of boog.

rescind jyms
lynch jkds

noted. so the same move 2 games in a row?? sick

[rong]

Well, I can get on this bw quite happily

lynch JKDS

[OngBonga]

Yeah it's important to note jkds' post last game was an attempt to communicate his role to the vampires, rather than a distancing attempt, but he's no afraid to vote his buddies early, that's the point.

[JKDS]

gabe, half an hour into last game, jkds' first post...



jkds was turncoat, jyms was on his side.

I can support a jkds lynch too. Lol at him pointing at my post count and suggesting I'm not posting enough. Just lol. He's usually much more active. I'm 2nd behind jyms, jkds is at the bottom with the likes of boog.

rescind jyms
lynch jkds

You arent active. You want to compare games? Last game you walled the fuck out of the thread. Where is that this game? Fuck jyms has more posts than you. You arent arguing with people like you usually do, you're just voting with 1 liners.

And are you kidding me with this quote? That game required that my teammates knew who I was. The strategic impact of that post is designed to signal to my team that I am on their side, hence the use of two of my team in the single post, the 'bro' word, and the fact that i immediately backed off as soon as I thought i made my case.

The strategy of lynching spidey is no where near the same, and couldnt be no matter what side you think im on. You've quoted this to attack me and get me lynched and arent thinking about my role at all.

lynch ong

[JKDS]

Well, I can get on this bw quite happily

lynch JKDS

Another vote without reasoning. Dont think this is going unnoticed rong. Even if you succeed, Ive illuminated how you did the exact same thing with dtb.

[OngBonga]

Nice revenge vote jkds. Sure I walked the last game in terms of post count. jyms got shot early so I had no competition. Also, as you're aware, I'm playing games at another site, I wasn't last time.

Why are you so quiet jkds? You're dodging that question. Last game you were quiet until you started picking up votes, then wuffinator etc.

[rong]

Lol JKDS, I've mentioned you as one of my top suspects earlier and I agreed with other peoples stated reasons for lynching dtb, plus had him bolded on day one for stated reasons plus stated the comment of his that swung my vote at the end. What more do you want?

Although your bolding of ong is a very tempting alternative. You'll note you were both in my top suspects list earlier today.

[dranger7070]

Lots of wolf in-fighting itt imo. Staged in-fighting that is.

[jyms]

Hmmm, right now JKDS and rong battle is interesting as I have them both as possibles, Rilla seems to be posting again so I'm ok with leaving him alone, but Boog, lolz and pascal still very quiet has me thinking one of those. Remove bigreds cat poster pics nd he has about 5 total too with zero gameplay discussion.

Lynch lolz

[BooG690]

I thought we weren't really posting until the wolves chose their nom. I see now rilla proved that thought to be stupid. Anywho, I see we're lynching JKDS now. There's nothing that would make me happier:

Lynch JKDS

Oh man, that felt so good.

[dranger7070]

It amuses me that a jyms lynch has zero backing yet again.

[NightGizmo]

I've come down with a bad cold so I've been sleeping like crazy. I'm caught up on the thread, although I don't think my reading comprehension is 100% right now.

Yes, I argued strongly for the DTB lynch, which looks bad for me. I thought we had good reasons for lynching him. But using my spidey vote against me is bullshit -- at worst, it's neutral (I definitely would have voted for him as a villager, I might have as a wolf). But if you look at it rationally -- if I had special knowledge that wuf was going to kill spidey, why would I associate my name with a known wolf? And why would I do it 20 minutes before wuf kills him off?

[NightGizmo]

Pascal is still looking super wolfy to me. He claims that his low post count is due to IRL conflicts, but then promises to become active yesterday. He has posted 4 times since then, and his long summary post was full of misinformation.

So we have someone that keeps making excuses for why they aren't posting much, promises to be more active and fails to deliver on that promise, and is pushing suspicious on other players using misinformation.

I don't expect anyone to follow a bandwagon I'm trying to start after failing with my DTB pick, but in case I do get lynched -- look hard at Pascal. I still need to re-read the thread before voting, I haven't made decisions about a few other people.