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    What are your full ring mid stakes preflop stats?

    If you could go back in time to 2004 with your current skill level, how much money do you think you could have made in the 5/10 and 10/20 games at the time considering terrible abc nits like empiremaker2 playing 17/12/4 made a million bucks a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeaces86 View Post
    What are your full ring mid stakes preflop stats?

    If you could go back in time to 2004 with your current skill level, how much money do you think you could have made in the 5/10 and 10/20 games at the time considering terrible abc nits like empiremaker2 playing 17/12/4 made a million bucks a year.
    1) Probably about 19/16 but it varies widely depending how good the game is. In tough games I probably play closer to 17/14.

    2) I think anyone who's been breaking even lately would have been making millions of dollars a year in those days. It's just pointless to consider because being able to think abstractly and think ahead, effectively being ahead of one's time, is the basic prerequisite for being a highly successful player.

    Empiremaker2 and bldswttrs, and to a lesser extent you and Gabe, and to an even lesser extent, myself, we had capital that most didn't have in those days, even if it was as simple as using a hud when most people were not, or knowing about reraise fold equity. As this capital spreads to others and becomes commonplace, it's no longer an advantage to be held so you have to find new tools. This explains how once-great players get passed over and begin to break even or lose. They become complacent and stop innovating.
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    What poker books would you recommend for a beginner? So far I have read Sklansky's theory of poker and NL hold em theory and practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloomer View Post
    What poker books would you recommend for a beginner? So far I have read Sklansky's theory of poker and NL hold em theory and practice.
    Those are probably the only two books I'd recommend reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton View Post
    ...we had capital that most didn't have in those days, even if it was as simple as using a hud when most people were not...
    so what software tools were available way back in 2004? were they any good?

    Also just wanted to add that your ABCD Theorem piece was on of the first things i read here on FTR, and pretty much got me hooked on this game.

    So thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleJ View Post
    so what software tools were available way back in 2004? were they any good?

    Also just wanted to add that your ABCD Theorem piece was on of the first things i read here on FTR, and pretty much got me hooked on this game.

    So thank you.

    [Or possibly "demn you, Sah!" depending on how i'm running...]
    By capital I was mostly referring to exploitative strategies. Back then all I used was a hud, but many successful players didn't even use a hud.

    Cool, glad to have helped you.

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