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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal View Post
    Also, did you seriously just reference the most pro-union website ever?

    I don't dislike you nearly as much as I've joked about before, but come on.

    "Better Wages Not Lower Wages!"

    But what if the wages are higher than they need to be for a company to be profitable? GG HOSTESS
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Also, did you seriously just reference the most pro-union website ever?

    I don't dislike you nearly as much as I've joked about before, but come on.

    "Better Wages Not Lower Wages!"

    But what if the wages are higher than they need to be for a company to be profitable? GG HOSTESS
    I figured you wanted someone/something to argue against so was just trying to help. I had no idea before I even opened this thread what Right-to-Work laws are
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    Unions are overrated.

    This supposed "social benefit" that Pascal keeps referring to is hardly something that is true in every scenario. I'd argue that unions more often than not result in inefficiencies and inflated wages (i.e. given the responsibilities and duties of the position, and compared to other similar positions in other markets) that are hard to justify and difficult to sustain.

    Anyway, we can't always (or, ever) count on employers acting in a more or less benevolent fashion, so it's of course important to keep them in check in some way. Unions do fill that role, but it seems to me they have a tendency to overstep their bounds, ask for too much, and ultimately result in lowered productivity due to lost work days and even possibly lower overall employment levels (see: Hostess).

    So to get back to what you were saying, spoon, I'm in agreement that one should be able to choose not to join a union and not face any repercussions. I've not really studied the dynamics of these types of situations however; I'm sort of defaulting to this due to my stance on unions in general.

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