2nl - cr on flop - b on turn w/ 2nd pair

[DoubleJ]

The thing about 8h6h here is that it's relatively strong in terms of making pairs and relatively weak in terms of drawing poker. Compare that to a hand like JhTh that doesn't have much strength in terms of pairs but that does have a lot of drawing power.

sorry...not sure what you mean here. could you expand a bit, please?

(i think it's the word "relatively" that's throwing me)

[spoonitnow]

sorry...not sure what you mean here. could you expand a bit, please?

(i think it's the word "relatively" that's throwing me)

JT is a weaker hand than 86 in terms of showdown value and a stronger hand in terms of hitting shit that gives us a better hand than Villain, so it's a better bluffing hand.

Edit: Also I typoed power as poker in that piece you quoted.

[DoubleJ]

JT is a weaker hand than 86 in terms of showdown value ...

thanks spoon

ok - the drawing potential bit i get; let me see if i understand the rest...and apologies if i'm being a bit blonde here

JT and 86 will both hit a pair on ~30% of flops

When JT hits, ~50% of the time it'll be TP, compared to 4-5% of the time for 86. OK so far?

the majority of the flops 86 pairs will be middle/weak pairs, and these can't really be bet for value, but can still win frequently at showdown, and so represent a viable Plan B if we can get there cheaply.

pls feel free to berate harshly where necessary

[spoonitnow]

thanks spoon

ok - the drawing potential bit i get; let me see if i understand the rest...and apologies if i'm being a bit blonde here

JT and 86 will both hit a pair on ~30% of flops

When JT hits, ~50% of the time it'll be TP, compared to 4-5% of the time for 86. OK so far?

the majority of the flops 86 pairs will be middle/weak pairs, and these can't really be bet for value, but can still win frequently at showdown, and so represent a viable Plan B if we can get there cheaply.

pls feel free to berate harshly where necessary

I'm talking about on this flop, not pre-flop.