WW 2013 Edition: The Conglomerate

[aubreymcfate]

Care to explain why you think this?

since he is such a wildcard in terms of the content of his posts, how much info can his lynch give us, regardless of whether he is wolf or villager?

honestly though, there may be something i'm missing. if someone can point out why bigred would be a beneficial lynch, i'd have no problem jumping on that wagon.

i just feel like it's easy to go for the inactives when we're unsure, that's all.

[daven]

What do you mean help you find the wolves, I have done that more than just about anybody, and I AM GETTING LYNCHED BECAUSE OF IT

Furthermore, I'm the only person on DTB, whom every single person here claims they don't think is the seer. And each of the people lynching me are contradicting their own position due to the fact that DTB claimed me as villager. This means if you think DTB is seer, you cannot lynch me, but if you think DTB is not seer, you must lynch him before me

Y'all need to get straight with your shit

You've done more posting than about anybody, this may or may not be helpful in finding wolves. Your voting history doesn't tell us much.
I think Dropthebanana might be seer. If he is seer and we lynch him then I struggle to see us winning. If he is seer and we don't lynch him then I don't think we can lose. If he is wolf then we're still in good shape regardless of whether or not we lynch him because the wolves can let him survive another night as seer.

so you see the benefit of running you vs Jyms, right?
have you forgotten that villager you wins when the village wins, REGARDLESS of whether you survive until the end?

[wufwugy]

wuf, can you please address the questions that people are frustrated about you not answering?

no, they're not frustrated for legit reasons. I have already explained why on a basic game theory level, I am literally the worst lynch, but nobody wants to care about any of that shit

I look forward to those lynching me feeling like idiots after they finally see that i was indeed the most obviously bad lynch there ever was

[jyms]

I don't think I have ever seen a wolf fake out as a seer and claim another wolf as a villager. That would take balls. My point is I think either way, Wuf is a villager, but if DTB comes up wolf, Wuf is on my radar down the line if I get stuck and I give DTB credit for big balls

[wufwugy]

does nobody else realize that if i had switched to bigred, i would not be getting lynched today, and that if i was a wolf and i realized this, i ALWAYS switch to bigred

fix your shit

[bikes]

lynch dtb

lynch the obv wolf and be done with it

[wufwugy]

that switch would have been dependent on pre-gizmo lynching me

i didnt do it because bigred is a wrong lynch (dtb is the right one, even according to the people lynching me logic) and it's what a wolf would do. i am HIGHLY consistent in this game with doing things wolves do not do

[daven]

I'm not. I have Bigred bolded do I not?

You do. As I posted in the huge vote-count post. And your vote is on someone who is at risk while our votes are this dispersed.

Your defence of this shows that you're willing to defend, now defend the rest of the allegations and comments and/or start hunting wolves. The more you post, the more you'll clear yourself (if villager) or implicate yourself (if wolf)

[jyms]

since he is such a wildcard in terms of the content of his posts, how much info can his lynch give us, regardless of whether he is wolf or villager?

honestly though, there may be something i'm missing. if someone can point out why bigred would be a beneficial lynch, i'd have no problem jumping on that wagon.

i just feel like it's easy to go for the inactives when we're unsure, that's all.

I don't think you are reading the thread. I know when I fist started playing I was over analyzing, trying hard to prove my villageness and I never called out someone that had a ton of game for fear of being lynched. Rescind Bigred, lynch Aubrey

[wufwugy]

look at the bright side, if we lynch dtb and he flips seer, you all will know that you didnt waste a vote on me

i seriously cannot fucking believe im leading in votes. i am NEVER the correct lynch. this is not opinion but basic facts of how this game works

fix your shit

[Hoopy]

since he is such a wildcard in terms of the content of his posts, how much info can his lynch give us, regardless of whether he is wolf or villager?

honestly though, there may be something i'm missing. if someone can point out why bigred would be a beneficial lynch, i'd have no problem jumping on that wagon.

i just feel like it's easy to go for the inactives when we're unsure, that's all.

It's not like he's a great lynch but the best we have right now. Lack of content is the main problem with bigred right now.

Also inactives are not a bad lynch when we have no idea what's going on i.e. now.

[Keith]

that pascal in fantastic lynch was right at the start of the game when pascal was doing his daven stuff. its easy for a wolf to say that knowing that a wagon is unlikely to steamroll . Why try and stop the pascal lynch and then say you thought that Pascal and DTB were probably wolves? If you thought that why try and stop the lynch?

[jyms]

I still think Wuf is a bad lynch right now. Bigred, Aubrey or DTB I will lynch. Can we pick one

[aubreymcfate]

I don't think you are reading the thread. I know when I fist started playing I was over analyzing, trying hard to prove my villageness and I never called out someone that had a ton of game for fear of being lynched. Rescind Bigred, lynch Aubrey

i've read this thread more times than is probably good for my mental health lol.

what are you even talking about anyway, who did i call out? all i said was i didn't see how lynching bigred would give us a lot of info because his posts don't have a lot of content. granted i didn't go back and read all his shit before typing that, hence me saying "i could be missing something."

[wufwugy]

why would jyms switch to aubrey when he thinks im a villager?

miraculously, jyms has been hanging out here at the end part of each day. thats when he's been posting a lot, but never other times. other times he has merely been "sry guise too bsy to do stuffs"

i moved to dtb from him because i thought he could be the seer, due to this strange style from him, but fuck it. lynch dtb today, after he flips wolf, lynch jyms tomorrow if jv is nom'd

[Hoopy]

Right ignore my last post.

Lets just do it guys, we all know DTB's a wolf and having 4-5 wagons with 2 votes right before the end of the day is a recipe for disaster.

rescind bigred
lynch DTB

[jyms]

why would jyms switch to aubrey when he thinks im a villager?

miraculously, jyms has been hanging out here at the end part of each day. thats when he's been posting a lot, but never other times. other times he has merely been "sry guise too bsy to do stuffs"

i moved to dtb from him because i thought he could be the seer, due to this strange style from him, but fuck it. lynch dtb today, after he flips wolf, lynch jyms tomorrow if jv is nom'd

I'm switching and doing my best to stop your lynch, WTF are you talking about? Have you not seen what I am posting?

[wufwugy]

that pascal in fantastic lynch was right at the start of the game when pascal was doing his daven stuff. its easy for a wolf to say that knowing that a wagon is unlikely to steamroll . Why try and stop the pascal lynch and then say you thought that Pascal and DTB were probably wolves? If you thought that why try and stop the lynch?

you are fabricating your own realities. this is precisely why i have not been responding to your bigass posts; they would just further your delusions

i did not try to stop the pascal wagon WHATSOEVER. you only think i did becuase you're delusional

what i said about why pascal was wolfy was NOT something a fellow wolf says unless he's planning on killing him off

[jyms]

Rescind Aubry Lynch DTB.

[wufwugy]

I'm switching and doing my best to stop your lynch, WTF are you talking about? Have you not seen what I am posting?

voting aubrey doesnt help that. either having stayed on bigred does, or now switching to dtb

[rong]

It's not like he's a great lynch but the best we have right now. Lack of content is the main problem with bigred right now.

Also inactives are not a bad lynch when we have no idea what's going on i.e. now.

NG & Bikes are better than BR on the basis of activity imo

[aubreymcfate]

lynch dtb

'cause he seems to be the most obvious wolf and his lynch, regardless of how it pans out, will put things into major perspective.

[jyms]

voting aubrey doesnt help that. either having stayed on bigred does, or now switching to dtb

I Thought Aubrey was still in the running last I checked and would put her at 3, I was wrong. DTB it is

[rong]

Let's not lynch DTB. We know he's a wolf but gain nothing from lynching him at this point. Let's lynch one of NG, Bikes, Hoopy or BR.

Lynch Bigred

Although I prefer one of the other 3 but I'd rather BR than either Wuf or DTB.

[wufwugy]

if dtb flips seer, im clear and boog is wolf; if he's not, we killed a wolf, and we can have a repeat of the "omg wuf must still be a wolf because he tried to kill dtb harder than anybody and he would totes obv do that totes obv"

and since nobody thinks dtb is the real seer, there's not much drawback to lynching him. even if he is seer, he's not even paying attention. if he was real seer, he would be giving us analyses and shit

[jyms]

Let's not lynch DTB. We know he's a wolf but gain nothing from lynching him at this point. Let's lynch one of NG, Bikes, Hoopy or BR.

Lynch Bigred

Although I prefer one of the other 3 but I'd rather BR than either Wuf or DTB.

This is what I was thinking but the BR wagon wouldn't take off. If DTB is a wolf why bother. It's not like we will listen to anything he says anyway. Maybe we should lynch BR, and tell DTB who to look up and see what he comes back with. Then if he for some unknown reason comes back the seer we have info on trouble spots.

[Keith]

i did not try to stop the pascal wagon WHATSOEVER. you only think i did becuase you're delusional

what i said about why pascal was wolfy was NOT something a fellow wolf says unless he's planning on killing him off

post 528 Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
dont hit vote ten with pascal guys

post 530 big red rescinds pascal
post534 gabe posts that 10 had been reached before bigreds rescind

Finally caught wuf in a lie guys.

[jyms]

Wuf, pick a target for DTB to look up, then if for any reason he's the seer we get info.

[wufwugy]

rong - bigred
aubrey - dtb
jyms - dtb
hoopy - dtb
bikes - dtb
daven - jyms
gizmo - wuf
gator - bigred
ong - rong
boog - wuf
keith - wuf
jv - wuf
dtb - boog
wuf = dtb

bigred = 2
dtb = 5
jyms = 1
wuf = 4
boog = 1

[wufwugy]

Wuf, pick a target for DTB to look up, then if for any reason he's the seer we get info.

doesnt work if hes lynched. he cant look up anything then

but he still cant look anybody up becuase hes not the seer. and if he is then woooooooo im confirmed villager and boog is confirmed wolf

[wufwugy]

Finally caught wuf in a lie guys.

no you didnt. that is not me trying to stop the pascal wagon; instead, that is me trying to extend the day so we could get more thoughts in before an important villager was nom'd

this is standard keith, and if you think me saying to not hit the full ten votes is trying to stop the wagon, you're in a straight jacket

[Keith]

you posted that after the 3 hours to deadline had been posted ...theres no need to prolong the day. just going back to look up exactly how long before the deadline it was.

[jyms]

What I can't understand is why not lynch Boog. After looking over stuff, I think things fall together lynching him. If he's a wolf everything gets easy, if he's not then DTB is an easy target and teh day takes an hour. The wolves have to lynhc him tonight if he's the real seer.

[wufwugy]

you posted that after the 3 hours to deadline had been posted ...theres no need to prolong the day. just going back to look up exactly how long before the deadline it was.

gabe, who was obviously going to be nom'd if pascal was wolf was still posting and i was avidly trying to figure out if dtb was legit

go over my posts at the time, you'll find me point out several really good reasons why i dont believe dtb. if i was a wolf, do you really think i would have much to say about why dtb was lying, or would i just go with the same ol generic 'dude guise hes totes all weird, so cants be real...'

it takes wolves forever to formulate good authtentic thoughts since they have to avidly make sure theyre not making silly mistakes

[daven]

Although I prefer one of the other 3 but I'd rather BR than either Wuf or DTB.

why?
i mean, i'd prefer Jyms over Wufwugy or Dropthebanana, but that isn't going anywhere. Why Bigred over Jyms?

[a500lbgorilla]

HARK! My fellow werewolfers. After having drank of the spiritual anti-freeze I have had a vision. The time of the locking is, in fact, 7:56 PM EST, on the dot!

All posts up to and including those time-stamped as 7:55 PM EST shall count as part of the will of the village. All those 7:56 and beyond which manage to undercut the locking shall be discarded.

This is the last update, I swear to you.

The time is currently 5:58 PM EST.

Deadline: 7:56 PM EST

Currentline: 6:33 PM EST

[Keith]

jkds posted 2 hours 5 minutes to deadline at 12.42 am uk time . Wuf posted "dont hit 10 on pascal" at i.e 55 minutes before deadline ....and he wants to extend the day? he is lieing his ass off and the lies don't fit the facts.

[wufwugy]

What I can't understand is why not lynch Boog. After looking over stuff, I think things fall together lynching him. If he's a wolf everything gets easy, if he's not then DTB is an easy target and teh day takes an hour. The wolves have to lynhc him tonight if he's the real seer.

that would have been something else to consider, but we dont have the time for it now. i think also that boog was considered off limits until we know dtb's role, which curiously was the exact same reason im supposed to be off limits too.....

[daven]

What I can't understand is why not lynch Boog. After looking over stuff, I think things fall together lynching him. If he's a wolf everything gets easy, if he's not then DTB is an easy target and teh day takes an hour. The wolves have to lynhc him tonight if he's the real seer.

interesting. Is this the only guaranteed two for the price of one lynch regardless of who is wolf and who is village?

The more you post the less you look like a good lynch for now. I'm noting that you are not changing your vote though.

[wufwugy]

jkds posted 2 hours 5 minutes to deadline at 12.42 am uk time . Wuf posted "dont hit 10 on pascal" at i.e 55 minutes before deadline ....and he wants to extend the day? he is lieing his ass off and the lies don't fit the facts.

the day is supposed to end the moment the vote max is reached.

in one of rilla's recent moddings, he got mad at us for posting after the vote max was reached

[rong]

why?
i mean, i'd prefer Jyms over Wufwugy or Dropthebanana, but that isn't going anywhere. Why Bigred over Jyms?

Jyms is never a wolf. It's the voting patterns of known wolves on dtb fake out day.

[jyms]

Is it too late to put together a Boog BW guys? Seriously, things get easy if we do. DTB is dead either way in a day. We get a guaranteed wolf if we take out Boog and then DTB if boog turns up villager. Taking out the still possible seer tonight fucks us in the ass

[jyms]

Fuck this, Rescind DTB, Lynch Boog I'm not going for gamble. Two days, one wolf.

[wufwugy]

besides, keith, in what universe am i trying to stop the pascal wagon when it hits NINE/TEN with under an hour left, and the only thing im focusing on is trying to figure out why dtb (a supposed fellow wolf) is a better option

apparently im a magic man who can be two things at the same time

[jyms]

Seriously, as a village how can you live with lynching an outted seer if he truns up for real. And if we lynch boog and he's a wolf DTB is dead anyway. We all get our wish.

[wufwugy]

Fuck this, Rescind DTB, Lynch Boog I'm not going for gamble. Two days, one wolf.

theres just over an hour left, boog is not getting more votes than me by that time

[rong]

I'm sure it used to be a standard lynch if a seer claimed you're a wolf as you know you get one. Game sure has changed in the last few years. Then again, this seer outing seems so off it isn't really worth considering.

[jyms]

SHUT UP ABOUT THE PASCAL WAGON. We can settle that when there is time. We need to play on the DTB situation right now.

[wufwugy]

Seriously, as a village how can you live with lynching an outted seer if he truns up for real. And if we lynch boog and he's a wolf DTB is dead anyway. We all get our wish.

becuase he's not the seer and nobody even believes he is. the wolves NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER leave him on the night he outs for the precise reason that he could find another one of them in a lookup

we should have lynched him very first thing after he didnt die in the night phase. this shit is bananas

if dtb is the seer and he is lynched, it's his own fault for not even trying

[jyms]

theres just over an hour left, boog is not getting more votes than me by that time

There is enough time because there are only 3 wolves. Anyone smart enough to play this game and one switch from you and we are back on track.

[wufwugy]

I'm sure it used to be a standard lynch if a seer claimed you're a wolf as you know you get one. Game sure has changed in the last few years. Then again, this seer outing seems so off it isn't really worth considering.

but this is not relevant because dtb was not nom'd

in what universe do the wolves not nom him? in none. we've had this happen so many times, and every time the wolves nom him. not doing so is such a huge mistake by them

[wufwugy]

There is enough time because there are only 3 wolves. Anyone smart enough to play this game and one switch from you and we are back on track.

but we dont even know if we want to lynch boog. keep in mind that dtb CANNOT be the seer due to the fact that he was not nom'd

[jyms]

ok, Then Lynch DTB it is

[jyms]

I don't like it

[rong]

Don't bother with a boog bw, it's gonna be really tough to get there and puts wuf at risk (who I think is a terrible lynch today). Bigred is a much better lynch and has potential to make it in the time frame we have.

[daven]

Furthermore, I'm the only person on DTB, whom every single person here claims they don't think is the seer. And each of the people lynching me are contradicting their own position due to the fact that DTB claimed me as villager. This means if you think DTB is seer, you cannot lynch me, but if you think DTB is not seer, you must lynch him before me

Y'all need to get straight with your shit

this is still messing with my head. It's the reason i haven't bolded you.
I still hate lynching Dropthebanana, i mean, obviously i love it if he flips wolf but we get that info tomorrow regardless.

[wufwugy]

not nomming an outed seer is the worst move any wolf team can make. it's by this reason we have known this entire day that dtb is not the seer

why are you guys still fricken lynching me and not dtb? this is nonsensical

[rong]

What's the latest vote tally? I'll switch to DTB before deadline if it's him or Wuf, but I'm a much bigger fan of the 4 people I've mentioned about 10 times now.

[wufwugy]

this is still messing with my head. It's the reason i haven't bolded you.
I still hate lynching Dropthebanana, i mean, obviously i love it if he flips wolf but we get that info tomorrow regardless.

actually we dont get it tomorrow since if jv is the vig, the wolves will nom him instead

and thats another reason the wolves never leave dtb-seer alive; it allows for the probability of him continuing to live and get more lookups. what happens when dtb is really the seer and he looks up the final wolf after we dont lynch him? the game is over for the wolves then

all noms are for purpose of special hunting, specfically the seer, until the specials are done. everybody here knows this, and everybody knows dtb is not the seer

[jyms]

Yea I just don't get how DTB and Boog are not either of the two people we are fighting over. Either DTB is lying or he's telling the truth. One of them is a wolf, how can Wuf be the target today?

[daven]

Jyms is never a wolf. It's the voting patterns of known wolves on dtb fake out day.

i'm going to take your word on this for now

Rescind Jyms

[wufwugy]

What's the latest vote tally? I'll switch to DTB before deadline if it's him or Wuf, but I'm a much bigger fan of the 4 people I've mentioned about 10 times now.

dtb is at 5

wuf is at 4

[Keith]

the day is supposed to end the moment the vote max is reached.

in one of rilla's recent moddings, he got mad at us for posting after the vote max was reached

really ......as someone who is soooooo offended by breaking the rules , why post your don't lynch pascal, then when you knew pascal was dead why post your dtb and pascal are wolves post , and then why post your wolves must be on the pascal wagon .....live by the sword die by the sword.

[daven]

actually we dont get it tomorrow since if jv is the vig, the wolves will nom him instead

wolves have to kill Dropthebanana tonight if he is seer otherwise he gets to share another lookup with us, right? If they hit Jackvance instead then we insta-lynch Dropthebanana. If, in the unlikely event that Jackvance and Dropthebanana are both specials, then we get a vig with a gun tomorrow night rather than having no specials left.

[daven]

shit, forget that ^. Vig acts after the wolves

[wufwugy]

really ......as someone who is soooooo offended by breaking the rules , why post your don't lynch pascal, then when you knew pascal was dead why post your dtb and pascal are wolves post , and then why post your wolves must be on the pascal wagon .....live by the sword die by the sword.

peer pressure

[Keith]

not nomming an outed seer is the worst move any wolf team can make. it's by this reason we have known this entire day that dtb is not the seer

why are you guys still fricken lynching me and not dtb? this is nonsensical

wolf plan not going to plan ? all this talk of game theory you keep talking about with the op[timal strategy , well when two suspected wolves are involved game theory changes.

[daven]

really ......as someone who is soooooo offended by breaking the rules , why post your don't lynch pascal, then when you knew pascal was dead why post your dtb and pascal are wolves post , and then why post your wolves must be on the pascal wagon .....live by the sword die by the sword.

keith, imagine a world (for a moment) where you are not able to vote to lynch wufwugy tonight. Who is the best lynch target?

[wufwugy]

really ......as someone who is soooooo offended by breaking the rules , why post your don't lynch pascal, then when you knew pascal was dead why post your dtb and pascal are wolves post , and then why post your wolves must be on the pascal wagon .....live by the sword die by the sword.

oh wait no that wasnt peer pressure, i hit enter on that one before i knew the final tally was up

[jyms]

First vote off of Wuf is not a wolf

[jyms]

The wolves pile on at the last minute, they aren't game changers

[daven]

I'll switch to DTB before deadline if it's him or Wuf, .

goes for me too.

[rong]

I'm going to bed very soon. I'd really like to lynch someone other than dtb or wuf. Wuf is a stupid vote as I don't see him being a wolf here very often and dtb is a dull lynch.

[daven]

Lynch Bigred

[daven]

forgot to bold
Lynch Bigred