WW 2013 Edition: The Conglomerate

[wufwugy]

But you yourself have been asking how it makes sense for jyms to be a wolf,

if you're referring to the back and forth with bikes yesterday, i wasn't asking rhetorically. i was actually looking for his explanation that i could use to reevaluate

i know it came off as sounding like i was defending him, but i was honestly looking for a legitimate reason. without a reason, i never really wanted to bold him for the same reason you dont

[jyms]

You guys are fucked, and Wuf I said all that about the vig and JV saying he's smart enough to make a decision knowing full well he won't shoot you, If I was Vig I wouldn't shoot you yet either, now you are going to take a shot at an easy lynch by bolding me? Get your heads out of your asses.

rescind Gizmo he may be #4 but Lynch Wuf May as well put two villagers on wagons, make it easy for the wolves,

[jyms]

The problem is now that the wolves eat JV over bikes for sure, Because he's way closer to a wolf than bikes who want's to look up me or Wuf next

[jyms]

Way closer to finding a wolf that is

[BooG690]

basically she gets super busy due to her job and school schedule, and can go silent for between one and three days

OK for Aubrey but not cool for jyms?

[BooG690]

Wuf clearly playing favorites here btw.

[jyms]

Well with so little time left I think I'm gone unless some voting happens

[jyms]

Can't believe I'm sitting here with a vote on someone I think is a villager to try and save myself

[wufwugy]

OK for Aubrey but not cool for jyms?

no, its not okay. from everybody else's perspective, lynching her is probably a good proposition. i am simply pointing out what i think is the reason

ive wanted to stay out of the goings on with her as much as possible this game

[BooG690]

Word. That's never happened before.

[wufwugy]

Wuf clearly playing favorites here btw.

i invited her to play, she finally is, and i honestly think she's a villager. because i think she's a super high probability of villager, im not into lynching her, but im also not going to stand in the way of others. however, that doesn't mean im not going to at least state my opinion on the probability of her being a villager

[wufwugy]

i think that's end time

[BooG690]

GUYS, NOBODY SPEAK. WUF IS RULE NAZI

[wufwugy]

[aubreymcfate]

sorry about that - i'm okay with taking the lynch for it, and hopefully it will make things clearer for you guys.

if i get lynched and you see i'm villager, you should also realize that wufwugy is clearly not a wolf. if he was a wolf i don't think he would be playing the "i know her well" card, i just think he would avoid saying anything like that entirely.

gizmo is the most unreadable to me.

jyms seems to be more active now. i was thinking it's not likely that he's a wolf because it would be pretty dick to skate by like that - at the same time, RL circumstances can't be helped, so if he is a wolf I doubt that level of inactivity was a tactic.

jyms and jv seem to be against me the most, but i can see why i would be suspicious, so i suppose it's not all that telling.

if wuf gets lynched and he's a villager than i should be more in the clear.

if he's a wolf... that will really suck for me lol.

i'm just going to post this now bc i dk how much time there is left.

[jyms]

How many times are you going to show up after time is up wolf?

[JKDS]

THE DEADLINE HAS BEEN REACHED. THREAD IS NOW LOCKED

[wufwugy]

[BooG690]

Wait guys! Everyone rescind on jyms! I haz reason he not wolf!

[JKDS]

The End of Day Vote Count is as follows

Vote Count 4.04

Jyms(4, LYNCH): bikes, Daven, Wuf, Hoopy
Wuf(4): Keith, Ong, Boog, Jyms
Gator(1): Nightgizmo
Aubrey(1): Jackvance

Not voting:, Aubrey, Bigred, Gator

A DEADLINE LYNCH HAS BEEN REACHED. SCENE INCOMING

Sushi+Chocolate+Pretzels+Water = weird ass naps

[JKDS]

“Before today’s proceedings, I have a delightful gift for you few who remain.”

The flood of lights creates an audible buzzing in the upper recesses of your ears; a shrill nigh-screech that crawls below your temples and irritates the very hairs upon your head.

Your chest feels a lightness of desire that makes your arms and legs numb. It is towering, the visage of power, smirking as if to be in on the joke that is your tiny manhood. The thick black eye brows mirrored above the lip by a thicker mustache, all of them dwarfed by His thick muscular form. The naked chin invites you closer, almost daring your sight away from His eyes.

Those eyes, so brown, speckled with deeper brown, seen the world, seeing you, knowing you…

The bickering and rabble of the room around fades. The light washes over the portrait that fills your eyes and informs your senses.

You feel strained to justify the love you want to believe He has for you. You feel small, wastrel, rote but for the warmth you know those eyes hold for you. If only you could find a way to earn.

A sweet and sultry whisper just within grasp, “By majority's consent, this council has condemned Jyms to die.”

The eyes come alive and lock with your own. You are conflicted by the desire to drink them in and the need to look away as befits your unworth. They’re so brown but for their black cores, swirling, growing, devouring the world.

His mouth dances alive, a long straight tongue seems to jest at your vanishingly small manhood, though it is queerly slender and brown, thin and hollow, like your manhood.


A bee stings your neck. You swat at it instinctively but know that you need to run. More bees will be coming, they hive you know.

You run across a gently sloping field, the daisies and sunflowers smiling as you pass. You bound from hillside to hillside as if your stride spun the very world. As your foot gingerly lands before a berry field, the ground begins to rot. A green-brown muck swallows your leg to the knee. You struggle against the sour field only becoming further stuck. You are surrounded by tombstones, the demons of lives long past; failures, each of them; embarrassments upon this world.

No longer are you fighting against the impossible muck, but tangled among the ghastly grip of rancid flesh and bone. Your legs spring free and you take off to run but each step becomes an impossible struggle. Your legs no longer know. You struggle to coordinate your unresponsive appendages. Behind you come the abominations, the remnants of pasts that you intend to keep in the past. Slowly you remember what legs felt like, how they knew to feel the next step without your laborious efforts. You run.

Running is not a defense against these dark wraiths, you are surrounded and within the fight. Your arms refuse to punch, the zombies encircling your defenseless self. Their numbers overwhelm you, crawling over your back, your shoulders, to your neck, biting deep. The black courses through you as you forget to scream.

[JKDS]

Jyms, a villager, has been lynched!

The Conglomerate

Living Members of the board
Boog690
Hoopy
Bikes
Wufwugy
Ongbonga
Jackvance
Daven
Gator
Aubrey
NightGizmo
Keith
Bigred

8 Villagers
1 Seer
1 Even Night Vigilante
2 Wolves

The Deceased
Fulksy, The Angel, Lynched Day 1
TLR, Regular Villager, Killed Night 1
Pascal, Wolf, Lynched Day 2
Gabe, Regular Villager, Killed Night 2
XTR1000, Regular Villager, Killed Night 2
Dropthebanana, Wolf, Lynched Day 3
Rong, Regular Villager, Killed Night 3
Jyms, Regular Villager, Lynched Day 4

It is now Night 4. Night will end 24 hours from now. The wolves may elect to extend this deadline for any reason to 48 hours.

[JKDS]

This is a test of my powah!

Test....successful...

[JKDS]

As you sit on the park bench that has welcomed you a thousand times past you give release to a long exhale, hoping the air will carry away some of the weight pulling at your chest. Across the fields you see nothing but the wind. The tree line is thick with green, the verdant sign of life a’ living.

You haven’t slept in days. Your nights are wasted worrying that you’ll fall prey to the many predators that stalk through your days, and many more that don’t. Your days are a string of moments stolen from the stressors of continuing to play the part.

You’re a trailblazer of sorts. A shapeshifter; a fluid element that slides into an environment and fills every and any vacuum. You've played your role so well, rolling with the punches, that you can’t even find escape from the rarefied air of your surroundings; more farcer than infiltrator at this point. Your talents have simply run their course.

“NightGizmo.”

You turn to meet her eyes, an eerie set of pale blue. She extends to you a letter, folded neatly on slightly yellowed, thick paper. You glance back to her eyes. They’re almost without color, greys that only seem blue by expectation. She moves forward and places the paper inside your hand never breaking eye contact.

It unfolds to read a message signed by the Old Dragon himself. You recognize his signature immediately having spent hours on end training yourself to mimic it.

You read.

Her eyes seem to welcome back your gaze. “I’ll meet him.”

---

You’re tired of this bullshit. The steps you take not to be seen. Any eyes that want to make witness of your deeds can be scraped out; any tongues looking to speak of your sins can be cut out; any heroes that might want to stop you can be snuffed out. You feel caged, leashed by a world that only holds authority over you by right of being here first. Though it’ll stand after you’re gone, you’ll be damned to see it pass judgment on you.

Be calm, you tell yourself. We are not ready. We are not strong enough. We take these steps and every one to follow as part of the climb.

Bullshit. There aren't steps. You can kill everyone who’s climbed so far - then there won’t be anyone left in a position to catch the apex predator.

Be calm, you tell yourself. We are not prepared to spread our wings. There are still threats to us. And we’re here to see it be one fewer.

There he is. You're ready to kill him.

Be calm, you tell yourself. He has someone with him. We can not kill them both.

You can kill them both.

You begin to run. Your lungs pull deep at the air around you as you finally feel the red life course through you. You can see yourself thrusting the steel deep inside his shoulder, tearing off his arm barely struggling with the connective bullshit that your thrust couldn’t cut. Using your knife to lame his legs at the tendons. Forcing yourself into the wounds and gripping and tearing the firm muscles from their bone. Burying your fingers into his chest, between his ribs, and pulling open his cavity.

Stop, you tell yourself. He is not alone.

You fall to ground silently. Your eyes measure down the target. He’s being followed by a familiar.

Fuck this bullshit I’ll kill them both.

Be calm, you tell yourself. We must watch to understand. NightGizmo is where we knew him to be. But this one following him, Bikes, is not where we thought him to be. There is no reason that we can see for them to be together. But we do see.

And so you watch...

[JKDS]

Bikes, The Seer, and NightGizmo, a Wolf, have been killed!

The Conglomerate

Living Members of the board
Boog690
Hoopy
Wufwugy
Ongbonga
Jackvance
Daven
Gator
Aubrey
Keith
Bigred

8 Villagers
1 Even Night Vigilante
1 Wolves

The Deceased
Fulksy, The Angel, Lynched Day 1
TLR, Regular Villager, Killed Night 1
Pascal, Wolf, Lynched Day 2
Gabe, Regular Villager, Killed Night 2
XTR1000, Regular Villager, Killed Night 2
Dropthebanana, Wolf, Lynched Day 3
Rong, Regular Villager, Killed Night 3
Jyms, Regular Villager, Lynched Day 4
Bikes, The Seer, Killed Night 4
Nightgizmo, Wolf, Killed Night 4

It is now Day 5. The day will end in 72 hours. With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

[wufwugy]

awesome shot. i see now why jv said like four times how good a player gizmo is

[wufwugy]

i stand by my reasoning for why dtb claimed boog is a wolf. other than that, i have nothing now

[Hoopy]

Very nice shot jack, I think this one is in the bag.

3 confirmed villagers and several near locks (daven, Ong, wuf).

I'll be really surprised if the last wolf isn't Gator or aubrey.

[GatorJH]

Very nice shot jack, I think this one is in the bag.

3 confirmed villagers and several near locks (daven, Ong, wuf).

I'll be really surprised if the last wolf isn't Gator or aubrey.

Then you are going to be very surprised (unless its Aubrey)

[bigred]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

lynch aubrey

[aubreymcfate]

wow nightgizmo is good. i found him so hard to read but he seemed like a moderately active normal player. i guess that's the most foolproof way to play wolf.

why am i such a wolfy villager? what the fuck lol.

i'll mull over this thread in a bit...

[wufwugy]

i'll do a rundown

aubrey - i dont think wolf but i wont stand in the way of a lynch. lord knows i would be rallying hard for lynching her if i was in everybody else's shoes

gator - nigga is just more active as a wolf

daven - goat first game if wolf

ong - goatwolf if wolf, and it's not close. what keeps him from being lock-villager is that he hasn't been a cinch on the other wolves dying. for example, yes he was suspicious of gizmo and bolded him and stuff at a seemingly bad time, but he didn't cinch it and try to gat him. same goes for other wolves. he's probably a villager though

hoopy - im not gonna go back over stuff from early days, but he just seems like he might be a villager this time. might not be tho

which leaves us with

boog - my "why dtb named him wolf" rationale is legit. also he posted much more than normal in early game. this is something i would expect of him given the dynamics of the last game where we thought he did such a great job as a wolf with the one caveat: he was too inactive. i think he would want to change that as a wolf in this game, even if by just gut reaction. he did make tons of posts in earlier days afterall....

so yeah looks like boog is gonna be my bold again, but it didn't work the last day, so we'll see what others have to say first

[JKDS]

Vote Count 5.01

Aubrey(1): Bigred

Not Voting: Boog690, Hoopy, Wufwugy, Ongbonga, Jackvance, Daven, Gator, Aubrey, and Keith

Deadline is in 2 days, 17 hours, 41 minutes. With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

I think I love someone...

[jackvance]

I was pretty sure NG was a wolf, he almost had to be in my eyes just on the merit that the wolves were hiding so well which only a few can pull off. For the same reason Hoopy is most likely the last wolf.

[jackvance]

But there was a reason I had hoopy pegged as a villager, I'll have to read over the thread again later today, to see if something might clear him, and take a closer look at boog.

[jackvance]

Ten people left, so we have 4 lynches to get the last wolf. Boog and Hoopy should be the first two to go. The game is probably gonna be over then.

But if not, then there's Gator or Aubrey, but I don't think either of them are wolves. Aubrey more likely than Gator though. That leaves me with Daven and Ong. If Daven is a wolf, he has been playing a massively good game (maybe coached by NG), ong, can he fake being a villager this well is what I ask? Because he plays the same as he does as a villager. I often have a hard time following his rationales, so I can't really read him if he could be doing this as a wolf.

When I do a full read-through I'll have to look closely at a lot of people it seems.

[jackvance]

Nah on second thought, ong can't be a wolf. Lynching in this order

(hoopy/boog) => (daven/aubrey) should net us the win.

[Hoopy]

I did a read through of Gator's posts, he goes after lots of people and posts plenty of theories but I'm unable to form a strong opinion either way right now.

Will go over the BW on jack in a bit.

Nah on second thought, ong can't be a wolf. Lynching in this order

(hoopy/boog) => (daven/aubrey) should net us the win.

Agree in principle with this, you think daven is more suspect than Gator?

As for me, it would be pretty sick for me to be a wolf considering I've gone after/voted for every member of the wolf team this game. Though I accept it's more of a numbers game right now.

[jackvance]

Daven isn't even really all that suspect, it's just that I put Gator solidly in the villager camp. I'm cool with lynching boog first btw.

[jackvance]

Like you said, numbers game.

[wufwugy]

boog all teh ways imo

[wufwugy]

my trigger finger is itching and i think boog is the wolf so much more often here than anybody else

lynch boog

[jackvance]

Slow day so yeah let's get this started

lynch boog

[Hoopy]

Day 2 post #421

Wolves have problems because pascal & dtb were leading the votes, aubrey voted for jyms and gizmo did as well to put him ahead. Looked like it might work until people switched.

lynch aubrey for now

[Keith]

did it really need 2 days to eat the outed seer? IS this back to the pascal skype call meaning that the one wolf is on a significantly different time zone to all the others. it points to boog or daven but daven is on early enough to avoid a late night skype call.


lynch boog

[wufwugy]

but i live on mars keith

HE WAS WAITING FOR MY CALL FROM MARS

[wufwugy]

After Boog dies and the game is over we can give the Did Absofuckinglutely Nothing Award to Bigred

YET AGAIN

[Hoopy]

Tumbleweeds rolling through the village.

[aubreymcfate]

i'm curious about whether gator is still up for sacrificing himself.

as for boog, if he is a wolf, why would dtb say he was a wolf? maybe the wolves knew dtb's claim would be met with suspicion, so people would be hesitant to lynch someone on his say so, and if dtb gets lynched anyway (which did end up happening, obv) it could clear boog later on.

a bit of a stretch but it's possible. there had to be a reason they picked boog - unless they just picked a random villager. but boog strikes me a the type that, if he is a wolf, would devise something sneaky/clever like this.

[wufwugy]

i'm curious about whether gator is still up for sacrificing himself.

as for boog, if he is a wolf, why would dtb say he was a wolf? maybe the wolves knew dtb's claim would be met with suspicion, so people would be hesitant to lynch someone on his say so, and if dtb gets lynched anyway (which did end up happening, obv) it could clear boog later on.

a bit of a stretch but it's possible. there had to be a reason they picked boog - unless they just picked a random villager. but boog strikes me a the type that, if he is a wolf, would devise something sneaky/clever like this.

the first post on day 3 details it. they knew nobody was going to listen to dtb, thus gave them the opportunity to pull a trick by having dtb name boog. notice how dtb didnt try that hard to lynch him and that boog didnt act like he knew dtb was a wolf

game is over as soon as we lynch boog

[aubreymcfate]

unless they picked a random villager for the express purpose of someone coming up with this theory. they knew whoever they picked would fall under major scrutiny and, knowing how people are when they play this, we would be inclined to cherry pick and see things in a way that fits our theory. and that's a convenient distraction for the wolves.

is this the only reason people seem so gung-ho about boog? apologies if i'm missing something - it's hard for me to keep up with all the details, so a memory refresher would be appreciated if there's something significant i'm missing. i know i can look over the thread myself, trust me i do, but there's so much at this point that i won't even know what to look for.

[GatorJH]

i'm curious about whether gator is still up for sacrificing himself.

With all specials being outed that would be pretty silly, but if my lynch would help clear up the clutter then yes I am ok with it.

I honestly don't have a good read on any of the remaining suspects so I will go with JV and lynch boog

[GatorJH]

After Boog dies and the game is over we can give the Did Absofuckinglutely Nothing Award to Bigred

YET AGAIN

SOOOOO true. I can't figure out how he keeps ending up in still being alive at the end of the games, but I do think that had he not been looked up he would have been suspect #1 today.

[aubreymcfate]

oh boog, i weep for thee. your posts have been my favorite. mainly because you made me laugh really really really hard one time when you were a bitch to hoopy.

lynch boog

[BooG690]

Lol when was I a bitch to Hoopy? I have no reservations being lynched since we're pretty much in the lead but what's the game plan for tomorrow?

[wufwugy]

plans for tomorrow are cracking open the champagne

[aubreymcfate]

801

[wufwugy]

boog pretty much just told us hes the wolf

lets get this over with

[BooG690]

How did I do that? I just said I'm not gonna fight it and we should have some sort of plan for tomorrow.

[wufwugy]

ssshhhh

it will be over quickly

[BooG690]

Vote Count 1.07
Pascal (4): TLR, Daven, Ongbonga
Daven(3): Jackvance, Bigred
Fulksey (11, Lynch!): Boog690, Gabe, Pascal, Nightgizmo, Xtr1000, Aubrey, GatorJH, Wufwugy, DropTheBanana, Bikes, Jyms
JackVance (1): Hoopy
Boog (1): Keith

Not Voting.: Fulksy and Rong.

THREAD IS LOCKED. DEATH SCENE INCOMING

NO MORE POSTING IN THREAD

Post 526 Resulted in the following vote count

Vote Count 2.05
Dropthebanana(6): Rong, Pascal, wufwugy, Hoopy, GatorJH
Jyms(3):Aubrey, Keith, Nightgizmo
Pascal(10, LYNCH!): Daven, Xtr1000, Gabe, Ongbonga, bikes, Jyms, Dropthebanana, Jackvance, Bigred, Boog

Not voting: Nobody

Final Vote Count 3.04

Boog(1): DTB,
Rong(1):, ong
Wufwugy(4): Keith, JV, Boog , ng
Bigred(2):, Gator, daven
DTB(6): wufwugy, bikes, hoopy, Aubrey, jyms, rong

Notvoting:,bigred

Deadline has been reached! With 6 votes, DTB has been lynched through deadline!

The End of Day Vote Count is as follows

Vote Count 4.04

Jyms(4, LYNCH): bikes, Daven, Wuf, Hoopy
Wuf(4): Keith, Ong, Boog, Jyms
Gator(1): Nightgizmo
Aubrey(1): Jackvance

Not voting:, Aubrey, Bigred, Gator

A DEADLINE LYNCH HAS BEEN REACHED. SCENE INCOMING

Sushi+Chocolate+Pretzels+Water = weird ass naps

Quick compilation post of all the final vote counts for this game. Aubrey is most likely your final wolf. If not, then Hoopy.

Before I die, I'd like to say this game was quite fun. Wolves were found by putting heat on inactive players and forcing them to make mistakes (Pascal and DTB). Gizmo played a very good game. If Aubrey is the last wolf, nicely played for your first time. If Hoopy, nice try to slip by with little posting.

By the way, I always felt like Aubrey posted a lot of neutral fluff which is what wolves do to try to not offend anyone and get in a rough spot. For this, I will lynch Aubrey.

[wufwugy]

There's still some life left in him!

[BooG690]

Meh, the 48 hour nights kinda turned me off. You may have had a point there.

[wufwugy]

why fight it bufu? we'll make it gentle

[BooG690]

But I'm not fighting. I just wanted to add SOMETHING to the thread for others to look back on when I come back villager. DUH.

[Hoopy]

BooG has 5, I don't want to end the day prematurely in case Ong or daven have something to say.

oh boog, i weep for thee. your posts have been my favorite. mainly because you made me laugh really really really hard one time when you were a bitch to hoopy.

I cried myself to sleep after that.

[GatorJH]

By the way, I always felt like Aubrey posted a lot of neutral fluff which is what wolves do to try to not offend anyone and get in a rough spot.

You're right and the ONLY reason I have her firmly in my villager camp was due to the offer to be lynched when we had already found 2 of the 4 wolves. She certainly could have been coached through that though.

[GatorJH]

BooG has 5, I don't want to end the day prematurely in case Ong or daven have something to say.

meh, ok.

Rescind boog and lynch aubrey

[daven]

nice shot vig.

I got back from a camping trip across at the Queenstown lakes too late last night to feel like turning on my computer. This morning i'm awake and things are looking good for us. Ten players, 3 confirmed villagers (Jackvance is obviously confirmed vig after last night), and mostly active players left (big bonus that the main inactive = Bigred is confirmed villager so can't be mis-lynched).

My list of possible/probably wolves before the end of day 4 was Jyms/Nightgizmo/Boog690/GatorJH/Aubrey/Ongbonga
two of these are gone - one wolf, one villager

I don't think we can read too much into the votes at the end of day 4 - i mean I was on a villager, the seer was voting for a villager, the known wolf was on a one-player wagon that wasn't going anywhere, the vig was on a player he had no intention of shooting, and everyone else was either not voting or voting to lynch a villager.

I really don't like the way Aubrey is playing, regardless of her role. Remaining pretty much silent each day until after a lynch has occurred and then posting her reads doesn't help us at all. If she was that sure that Jyms wasn't a wolf then why wasn't she voting?!

If Aubrey is a wolf then the fact that Wufwugy is avoiding talking about her or analysing her (or voting to lynch her?) is going to continue to cause us problems. Taking a line of 'i know her in real life. She isn't wolf' just doesn't help us at all.
I'm happy with lynching any of Boog690/GatorJH/Aubrey/Ongbonga today. Aubrey is my preferred lynch.

[daven]

i'll do a rundown

aubrey - i dont think wolf but i wont stand in the way of a lynch. lord knows i would be rallying hard for lynching her if i was in everybody else's shoes

bold added by me for emphasis
ok, this is ridiculous.

[daven]

why am i such a wolfy villager? what the fuck lol.

you post your reads and ideas too late for them to be of any use to us because the lynches have already happened, why on earth weren't you voting for Wufwugy if you thought he was wolfier than Jyms?
you don't vote
you pretty much disappear except for occasional defence posts

[daven]

I was pretty sure NG was a wolf, he almost had to be in my eyes just on the merit that the wolves were hiding so well which only a few can pull off. For the same reason Hoopy is most likely the last wolf.

But there was a reason I had hoopy pegged as a villager, I'll have to read over the thread again later today, to see if something might clear him, and take a closer look at boog.

re hoopy, i posted something I'd noticed about his votes that cleared him (at the time anyway) in my eyes. Here's the post:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2130946

[daven]

Nah on second thought, ong can't be a wolf.

this is similar to my thoughts on Ongbonga, except i think that it is unlikely that Ongbonga is a wolf - rather than him being lock-villager.

Lynching in this order

(hoopy/boog) => (daven/aubrey) should net us the win.

um, you do realise that i'm a villager, right?

[daven]

did it really need 2 days to eat the outed seer? IS this back to the pascal skype call meaning that the one wolf is on a significantly different time zone to all the others. it points to boog or daven but daven is on early enough to avoid a late night skype call.

I wonder about this too. Ongbonga posted something about stag partying or something i think, Gator said he was going to be really busy the next few days. I missed the start of this day because of the night being extended and the thread being locked until after i left for Queenstown.

[daven]

i'm curious about whether gator is still up for sacrificing himself.

I doubt it.