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 Originally Posted by jackvance
You also don't block any of his value range. If this is your reasoning, how do you play 75s, 78s in this spot? Let's put villain on a typical range of AJs+ KQs 99+. A bunch of this he will 4bet pre. And what is your calling range in this spot, AA-KK, nothing? Do you 3bet 44 <50% or >50% of the time here?
I was implying villain had a wider open range for that statement, which isn't really the case utg 8 handed.
6max utg-mp though for sure way wider. hand like A4s would probably be better than 44 vs such a narrow range, but in terms of where to draw the line its worth considering other types of hands. (if villain opens lots of weak Ax from a given position then 44s value in being 3bet would go up)
think of the value you get when villain calls 88 to set mine pre and you make him fold, and when 4bet you're always toast and can just muck.
in the co v mp for example, I really doubt you are profiting cold calling 44. the next alternative would be to 3bet or fold.
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