The best game you never completed...

[aubreymcfate]

Lol the timeline is bs I think. I mean it is and it isn't. I don't think they made each game with a timeline in mind. There is a rough one but there are internal inconsistencies. Still cool though.

[Luco]

Lol the timeline is bs I think. I mean it is and it isn't. I don't think they made each game with a timeline in mind. There is a rough one but there are internal inconsistencies. Still cool though.

Yup.

I already hate your band surviva

[surviva316]

Lol the timeline is bs I think. I mean it is and it isn't. I don't think they made each game with a timeline in mind. There is a rough one but there are internal inconsistencies. Still cool though.

Yeah, saying that the time travel in Ocarina of Time split the timeline into several branches, some of which explain how Ganon is still alive in future games, is cool in a way but also kinda seems like a convenient way of being like, "Now we can get away with having anything happen, and just retrofit it into the storyline by saying it was part of an alternate universe."

[aubreymcfate]

Yeah, saying that the time travel in Ocarina of Time split the timeline into several branches, some of which explain how Ganon is still alive in future games, is cool in a way but also kinda seems like a convenient way of being like, "Now we can get away with having anything happen, and just retrofit it into the storyline by saying it was part of an alternate universe."

AHHHHH there is a word for that and I can't fucking remember it!!!

Also a neat thing about OoT is that it's the first hero of time ever. It's like the prequel to every other game or something.

[Galapogos]

I had to take a flight this weekend and didn't feel like reading so I quickly downloaded an SNES emulator and Link to the Past while waiting for the plane. I forgot how much fun those kinds of games were. Does anyone else find that overhead 2D style of Zelda game more fun than the new ones?

I grew up in the 8-bit NES era so I'm wondering if it's just an old guy "back in my day" kinda thing, or if presenting the game like that made it more enjoyable. FWIW, I did really enjoy Ocarina of Time, but still rate Link to the Past as the best.

[Galapogos]

AHHHHH there is a word for that and I can't fucking remember it!!!

retcon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity

[surviva316]

I don't know if there's a term for the actual plot device (really putting the Masters degree in English to good use), but I have a circle of friends that has a name for a similar application in arguments: The Matrix argument. Basically, we say that we've won an argument whenever the other person has to resort to talking about how you can't definitively prove that they're wrong because we can't be certain that the world as we sense it is real and maybe all our senses lie to us and/or there might be an alternative universe where what they are saying is true. I personally think that it's a pretty platonically valid point, but in any discussion that doesn't have to do with metaphysics or platonic epistemology, I can see how it is pretty much an admission of defeat.

[aubreymcfate]

Thinking about this, if my kids played these games the way I played them... that is, playing for hours and hours, and rage-restarting if I happened to die within the first 10-15 minutes. I'm not sure how i'd react. I think I'd discourage their behavior, but is it desirable for kids to be persistent at something even if it's just a video game? Is it reasonable that experience might transfer over to meaningful learning in a different context when they are trying to learn how to do challenging mathematics, for instance?

So, this is actually something I think about quite often. I think that some video games absolutely have an "educational" value, particularly RPGs which are all about strategy rather than motor control. Another thing about RPGs is that they sort of teach you how to properly investigate a world with different personalities and dynamics. I know that the emphasis on character and story in retro RPGs have shaped the minds of those young gamers based on how they reminisce on them now (myself included).

Even platformers and action games... I mean, it is a skill, for sure. You practice and you get better. You develop hand-eye coordination, learn to think quickly on the spot, etc. I don't think it's that unlike learning a musical instrument, at least in the technical aspects.

Obviously moderation is key and all that.

Do you play games with your kids? You might feel better about it if you share the experience with them. I wish I had that with my parents. My boyfriend grew up playing games with his father and he cherishes those memories.

[aubreymcfate]

I don't know if there's a term for the actual plot device (really putting the Masters degree in English to good use), but I have a circle of friends that has a name for a similar application in arguments: The Matrix argument. Basically, we say that we've won an argument whenever the other person has to resort to talking about how you can't definitively prove that they're wrong because we can't be certain that the world as we sense it is real and maybe all our senses lie to us and/or there might be an alternative universe where what they are saying is true. I personally think that it's a pretty platonically valid point, but in any discussion that doesn't have to do with metaphysics or platonic epistemology, I can see how it is pretty much an admission of defeat.

Galopogos got the word I was looking for - retcon. Thanks!

lol btw you're a masters in English? I'm a BA in English and currently getting my MFA in fiction. I was going to get my masters but decided I was over writing essays (at least in a school setting - I still like to write non-fiction) when what I really want to do is write stories. Artsy fartsy TL;DR'ers unite!

[surviva316]

retcon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroactive_continuity

I assumed she was talking about using chaos theory or any other sort of other excuses for branching a timeline as a work around to retcon. Technically, it's not retcon because while it "contradicts" the other chronology (that is, while two things happen that could not normally logically coexist), the fact that there are two worlds resolves the contradiction by placing those two realities that couldn't coexist in separate realities.

The fact that it's a little out there and fantastical (well, maybe it's not outside of reality, but outside of experienceable reality) makes it cool and interesting, but the fact that it's an obvious plot device and that it's a bit of used-up plot device makes it a bit lame when you actually think about it

[surviva316]

Galopogos got the word I was looking for - retcon. Thanks!

lol btw you're a masters in English? I'm a BA in English and currently getting my MFA in fiction. I was going to get my masters but decided I was over writing essays (at least in a school setting - I still like to write non-fiction) when what I really want to do is write stories. Artsy fartsy TL;DR'ers unite!

Incidentally, I have my MFA in Fiction from a school in NYC.

[aubreymcfate]

Incidentally, I have my MFA in Fiction from a school in NYC.

May I ask which? You can PM me instead if you want. I ask because I go to school in the city, so I'm super curious.

[surviva316]

CCNY. Graduated Spring '12. We should be cool and exchange manuscripts. It would be awesome if I could have a $900 excuse to fly to Seattle for AWP 2014 because Seattle's awesome, buuuuuuut...

I knew you had mentioned that you live in NYC, which is why I included that on my list of life parallels.

[aubreymcfate]

Nice - my dad actually graduated from CCNY forever ago. I go to Queens College. I graduated in '12 with my BA and I'm there again for grad school 'cause it's small and intimate and I value that in creative workshops.

Yeah, I would not mind exchanging manuscripts at all! I have a thingy I'm working on that isn't ready to be shown at the moment but I'll keep in touch with you about it. If you have anything you'd like to send me, please feel free.

I actually live in Long Island (born and raised, bleh), but I'm hopefully moving to Astoria soon. I'm like 45 min away from the city though. And I'm there now 'cause I work here every day, so I'm here for most of my daily life.

[kiwiMark]

Kiwi, did you really talk about Starcraft single-player campaign as if it's something worth beating, or anything close to being difficult?

Don't know if srs.

asians itt

[surviva316]

Yeah, I would not mind exchanging manuscripts at all! I have a thingy I'm working on that isn't ready to be shown at the moment but I'll keep in touch with you about it. If you have anything you'd like to send me, please feel free.

PM me your email address or hit me up at dscicala ... gmail ... .

I lived in a duplex a block away from Astoria Blvd and Steinway. Super awesome neighborhood with so much food and that mosque that made national news by being peed on. I had to walk a few blocks outside of shariah law to get pork or alcohol though. I'm sure you mean you would live on the other side of Astoria, though, where some strange breed of smelly Mediterraneans from some random broke-ass country live. That part's not as cool.

[surviva316]

I realize I'm talking about almost everything except for video games itt.

[ChipEaterMan]

PM me your email address or hit me up at dscicala ... gmail ... .

I lived in a duplex a block away from Astoria Blvd and Steinway. Super awesome neighborhood with so much food and that mosque that made national news by being peed on. I had to walk a few blocks outside of shariah law to get pork or alcohol though. I'm sure you mean you would live on the other side of Astoria, though, where some strange breed of smelly Mediterraneans from some random broke-ass country live. That part's not as cool.

I think he's talking about Greeks Aubrey

[aubreymcfate]

I think he's talking about Greeks Aubrey

Man, I'd be fumbling through life like a cat in the dark with its whiskers cut off if it werent for you.

I'll email you later today surviva. You'll recognize the Greek last name.

I actually want to live by the Steinway/Broadway or Ditmars areas.

Oh, and to remedy the thread derailment...

FF7. Never finished it. Sacrilege!!!

[surviva316]

Just got A Link to the Past. Didn't realize it was SNES. I thought it was one of the original NES games which I remembered not being as bananas for. I beat the first dungeon and it reminds me of Link's Awakening, so I'll probably get addicted pretty quickly.

I added GameCube controller and Wind Waker to my Christmas List.

I also recently got through single-player campaign in Portal 2 (beating a game within 5 years of its release is very very rare for me, in case you can't tell), so if there's anyone else out there in the universe who's yet to play co-op, then hit me uuuuuuuuuuup.

[Luco]

Just got A Link to the Past. Didn't realize it was SNES. I thought it was one of the original NES games which I remembered not being as bananas for. I beat the first dungeon and it reminds me of Link's Awakening, so I'll probably get addicted pretty quickly.

I added GameCube controller and Wind Waker to my Christmas List.

I also recently got through single-player campaign in Portal 2 (beating a game within 5 years of its release is very very rare for me, in case you can't tell), so if there's anyone else out there in the universe who's yet to play co-op, then hit me uuuuuuuuuuup.

Portal & portal 2 are ridiculously fun. What platform you playing it on?

Also, it was only about 2 years ago that I completed Link's awakening for the first time ever and I've never even played LttP. If you're getting WW for xmas then we may be playing it around the same time

[surviva316]

I'm pretty sure I never finished any of the NES Final Fantasy games, even though I poured a massive part of my childhood into it. I think I might have lost files a few times and had to start over again or something, but I don't even think I got particularly far. I remember in like 6th grade or something, I used to stay up every single night until 2 in the morning playing Final Fantasy on the computer with NBC playing in the background until the Conan O'Brian show was over.

I actually never had any idea whatsoever that I was a nerd growing up, so there are two things about this that were kind of strange and amusing to me:

1) I was playing on an emulator that had like every NES game ever, and I just accidentally stumbled on this game series listed as FF1, FF2 and FF3 in my emulator having no idea that I was playing some insanely vaunted game series. By the time I was in middle school, they musta been releasing Final Fantasy 8, and I was like Jesus, how many of these games do they need to release, and what's so great about it that makes all these nerds go bananas for it. I got hooked on a couple of FF games in college (I think VII and X), and when I went to play the NES games I was like, "WHAAAAAT?! I was a FF fanatic the whole time?"

2) I had no idea Conan O'Brian was a thing. I thought he was just some random dude who came on between the guy everyone's heard of (Leno) and infomercials. I was always surprised by how little the guy I'd heard of was funny and how funny the guy I hadn't heard of was. Fast forward a few years, and in 9th grade someone in my high school responded to a silly joke of mine by being like, "Cicala, I bet you're a Conan O'Brian fan. You seem like the type who would have Conan O'Brian as like your favorite comedian ever." I was seriously fucking floored. It might literally have been the first time I ever heard anyone mention the name Conan O'Brian, and now apparently there was a whole "type" of person who watched him, and in the first soulread I'd ever experienced, I was being placed in that type.

Point is, as much of my childhood I spent on the NES FF games, I don't think I ever beat any of them. I think between switching PCs, having files crash and switching between the 3 games. That's right, 3 games. I even played some of FF3, using trial and error with what the different windings meant.

[surviva316]

Portal & portal 2 are ridiculously fun. What platform you playing it on?

Steam for Mac. I got the original Portal in 2011 and solved a puzzle or two whenever I felt like it (so spread apart that I didn't recognize the chambers when I played the advanced versions), but I played all of Portal 2 in the matter of a week.

[jackvance]

Kiwi, did you really talk about Starcraft single-player campaign as if it's something worth beating, or anything close to being difficult?

Don't know if srs.

For me it's always been about how fast I can complete the campaign. But sc is about online play not vs PC.

[aubreymcfate]

Speaking of Steam, anyone wanna be frenz??? I've been meaning to play Starcraft for a while. The last RTS I played was Age of Empires, ages ago.

My username is medusaspath... my account name is thelotoseater though. Not sure which you need to find people.

Another -fantastic- game I've been playing on Steam is Binding of Isaac. It's a top down indie action/adventure dungeon crawler. It's really tough and unforgiving but unbelievably fun. It's made by the same dudes that made Super Meat Boy, and were featured on Indie Game: The Movie. Great documentary on indie games btw. If you guys haven't watched it, I highly, highly recommend it.

I guess that's another incomplete game because it has so much replay value (unlocking characters, expansion packs, etc). It's one of my favorite games to play when I just need to unwind and lose myself mentally because it's all about technical precision and skill.

[d0zer]

contra III. shit was hard.

[ChipEaterMan]

I'll email you later today surviva. You'll recognize the Greek last name.

You mean like the history channel ancient aliens dude

[Luco]

Hey chip did you know I'm actually female?

[Luco]

syke!

[ChipEaterMan]

Hey chip did you know I'm actually female?

Sorry Luco, I'm only interested in greek females since the day I saw My Big Fat Greek Wedding movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfYF3TAST5E

[d0zer]

Sorry Luco, I'm only interested in greek females since the day I saw My Big Fat Greek Wedding movie

...and BEFORE that movie it was a big ol' hairy feta cheese lemonparty

[aubreymcfate]

...and BEFORE that movie it was a big ol' hairy feta cheese lemonparty

ewww i think i just threw up in the back of my mouth a little




And 'cause I care about the purity of this thread.......

Digital Devil Saga. What a good fucking game. I really should finish it.

[ChipEaterMan]

Ookie cookie
I never had the guts to eat the cookie

Soggy biscuit also known as ookie cookie, limp biscuit or wet biscuit, is a male masturbation game reportedly played in schools where the participants stand around a biscuit masturbating until ejaculating onto it; the last person to do so must eat the biscuit.[1] It is thought to have originated in Australia sometime in the 1960s.[1] The game is also known in Australia as soggy Sao after the SAO brand of biscuits popular there.[2]

Although "soggy biscuit" is not necessarily associated with homosexuality, since the game does not require mutual masturbation or other contact, the idea and practice of the game is in keeping with the spirit of adolescent sexual exploration associated by many in the UK with public schools (UK) or private schools (Australia).[3]

Although the terminology may differ slightly, the notability of the game is such that variations on the theme are referred to in popular culture, examples including Stephen Fry's The Liar, the German movie Crazy, and the episode of Blackadder, "Chains".

According to the book Law of the Playground, 1866 men were asked: "How close have you got to the game of Soggy Biscuit, in which you race to wank onto a cracker?" 6.2% reportedly admitted to having played the game.[4] In November 2011 The Eagle-Tribune reported that police were investigating claims that two Andover High School basketball players were hazed by older team members into playing the game.[5] In January 2012 it was reported that two students were expelled over the incident and a further five were suspended. A grand jury was convened to determine if any of the students should be charged criminally.[6]

Soggy biscuit, sometimes also called The Biscuit Game, Sticky Biscuit, Cookies and Cream, Limp Biscuit or Ookie Cookie is a male masturbation game which originated from the United Kingdom in which the participants stand around a biscuit masturbating until ejaculating on to it; the last person to do so must eat the biscuit. The game is also known in Australia as soggy Sao after the SAO brand of biscuits popular there. The term soggy biscuit is thought to have originated in the UK sometime in the 1960s.

Ookie-Cookie

A group of (usually young teen) males gathers around in a circle and proceed to masturbate onto a cracker or cookie. The last one to ejaculate has to eat the semen-covered cookie...

Ookie-Cookie is hardly ever played for the enjoyment of the players, but is frequently used as a hazing ritual...

Ookie Cookie definitions

1. ookie cookie

step 1) place cookie on table
step 2) gather bored guys (preferably frat members)
step 3) get them to stroke it, last one to cum, eats the spooged cookie

see also circle jerk
Hey frat brothers, lets play ookie cookie to bond!

2. Ookie Cookie

where a bunch of guys stand in a circle with a cookie in the middle. and then they all have to ejaculate onto the cookie and the last guy to cum has to eat it. Hence the Ookie.
those guys totally made him eat their ookie cookie.


3. OOKIE COOKIE

When a bunch of men gather in a circle and masterbate on a cookie and the first one who can't cum in 5 minutes has to eat the cookie.
I knew I shouldn't of eaten that Ookie Cookie last night.

4. ookie cookie

1) place a delicious cookie in the middle of a smallish table
2) gather five (5) homos, goodlooking, successful, hard
3) Get the go getter to make the first move as the others willingly compete to make icing

Lookie, those fabulous five sure did use their queer eye to goo gun that cookie cookie!


5. ookie cookie

1. see biscut
2. when you take a cookie and a whole bunch of fucking homos jack off and the last fucker to enjaculate on the cookie has to eat that shit
sperm on a cookie then eat it
hense the term ookie cookie