AT - TPWK - All draws miss and loose-passive leads.

[Carroters]

So all draws brick vs a random fish and we aren't good here 26% of the time? I mean yeah he's passive but does he really have two pair + 3 times as often as he has a random Ax, missed spade draw, random spazz with Qx etc etc? I doubt it.

If he checks the river I think it's a really easy value bet btw.

I don't use AF at all really, so could be wrong here, but if this is a meaningful sample, is 1 not kinda average for some who plays 58% of hands? I'd imagine an AF of 2 would be hella aggro for such a ridiculous wide range.

[WeldPhaser]

So all draws brick vs a random fish and we aren't good here 26% of the time? I mean yeah he's passive but does he really have two pair + 3 times as often as he has a random Ax, missed spade draw, random spazz with Qx etc etc? I doubt it.

If he checks the river I think it's a really easy value bet btw.

I don't use AF at all really, so could be wrong here, but if this is a meaningful sample, is 1 not kinda average for some who plays 58% of hands? I'd imagine an AF of 2 would be hella aggro for such a ridiculous wide range.

i know it's discounted, but KT got theres. it's just when these guys donk the river its 2pair+ a lot so i muck, but i don't think you'll ever lose money listening to carrot.

[Carroters]

[JJ, 66, 44, AQs-AJs, A6s, A4s, Q6s, Q4s, J6s, 64s, AQo-AJo, A9o-A6o, A4o]

Vs this we have 30% and a clear call. I've only added a small portion of potentially worse top pair hands and added no bluffs whatsoever.