Loose call flops the nuts - how to proceed

[OngBonga]

have to bet turn as we want to play for all of the chips.

Ideally yes, but how realistic is that when we know he's dead unless he has KK? We get value from QcQ AK AA KK, but how much heat can his QQ AK and AA take when he knows they're dead to the nuts?

I probably do bet the turn but I keep it small. If he bets again I drool call and shove whatever happens on river.

[d0zer]

Ideally yes, but how realistic is that when we know he's dead unless he has KK? We get value from QcQ AK AA KK, but how much heat can his QQ AK and AA take when he knows they're dead to the nuts?

Hey, it's hard to stack anyone when u have the board crushed but dude he's a fish with an 8% 3b. surely you can be more creative with a range than that.

[OngBonga]

Hey, it's hard to stack anyone when u have the board crushed but dude he's a fish with an 8% 3b. surely you can be more creative with a range than that.

That's the top of his range, all we can reasonably expect any value from. Obviously he's wider, but how much more money does he put in with the middle of his range? None. The Kc on the flop doesn't help, it takes a lot of flushes out of his range. He might have QJcc etc but I'm not trying to get value from a handful of club combos at the expense of all his QQ+ AK.

If we think this guy stacks AK happily, then fair enough. But even fish can make hero folds on boards like this. AA and AK have no club so I don't expect him to be so happy to stack them here. Maybe he spews AA because he doesn't want to see another club, but again we're targetting the smaller part of his range and allowing him to let go of stuff that he might call for less.

I expect him to bet brick turn big if he has AA KK because he hasn't got a club and will want to charge us for drawing. A flopped flush bets turn too. Anything he checks on the turn we will struggle to get all in. So yeah I'm half potting turn if he checks, because I don't expect stacks to get in and am happy with any more value I can extract.