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    My first thought is - why isn't hero fullstacked?

    My next thought was - uh numbers. At the table I'm drooling with a huge draw and raising / stacking is obviously +ev and nice and easy. I think at 2nl that thought process is fine. I think 25nl and above I need to start thinking more in numbers and less uh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    My first thought is - why isn't hero fullstacked?

    I think 25nl and above I need to start thinking more in numbers and less uh.
    Because I was bored and downloaded PS on my laptop because I couldn't be assed getting up and turning on the desktop, when I started playing I realized the auto-rebuy etc wasn't set up, they are now.

    You should be thinking in terms of EV regardless of stake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    My first thought is - why isn't hero fullstacked?

    My next thought was - uh numbers. At the table I'm drooling with a huge draw and raising / stacking is obviously +ev and nice and easy. I think at 2nl that thought process is fine. I think 25nl and above I need to start thinking more in numbers and less uh.
    Since it was your first thought and also was the first reply of the thread, I have to ask, why does it matter if hero isn't full stacked? (assuming that by full stacked, you mean the quasi standard 100bb full stack)

    Granted, I almost always want as much money on the table as possible but it's rare that I'm not the best or second best player at the table, but that doesn't mean that I can't play shorter. Sometimes I do. More importantly, in games with mixed stack sizes, you're constantly adjusting to players with different stack sizes so a 'full stack' player who doesn't know 'short stack' strategy is really missing out on some low hanging fruit.

    Sitting short at a table with different stack sizes (and it's not just 20bb or 100bb or 300bb, there is a continuum thing going on here) is an advantage. It's amazing how infrequently this is recognized. Short stack can play more or less ideal strategy vs everyone while full stacker has to adjust and probably ends up playing a bit too loosely vs the short stackers and a bit too tightly vs the full stackers. Obviously that is a very basic, perhaps oversimplified comment that doesn't always apply.

    In this specific hand hero is sitting with 94bb. Is there really much of a difference between playing 94bb deep and 100bb deep? Besides maybe pointing out that there is a rebuy feature that might make for slightly more efficient multitabling. And it's worth pointing out that he is actually the second deepest player at the table; only BB covers. I would argue that he is actually very slightly better off playing the 94bb stack than a 100bb stack unless BB is a drooler.

    This should make for some interesting discussion. Stack size considerations are always an underappreciated aspect of no limit strategy.

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