[5NL] I have a range in the BB, how should I play it?

[Mury]

3b play has more questions then what i wrote and better ones maybe could make you understand better why you shouldnt go there before you start winning w/ ABC.

Is it not better to learn this kind of play at lower stakes where it's less expensive to make mistakes?

Also as to your other post, I really struggle with 3b sizing; it kind of seems like no matter what sizing I post someone ends up telling me it's a bad sizing for that particular spot.

[Savy]

Also as to your other post, I really struggle with 3b sizing; it kind of seems like no matter what sizing I post someone ends up telling me it's a bad sizing for that particular spot.

Be easier if you tell us what you think about when you are sizing your 3bets and maybe an example or two showing your logic in action.

[Mury]

Be easier if you tell us what you think about when you are sizing your 3bets and maybe an example or two showing your logic in action.

MP: $5.36 (107.2 bb)
CO: $24.45 (489 bb) {35/21, 2/4 fold to 3b, 34% ATS, 67% fold to CB, 9.1% 3b, 229 hands}
BTN: $11.22 (224.4 bb)
SB: $20.54 (410.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $12.50 (250 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
MP folds, CO raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60

So here I choose to 4x because I have a value hand, he's likely folding less than he should be, and I want to lower SPRs for post flop value situations. Is this bad OOP?


MP: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $7.19 (143.8 bb)
BTN: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $5.08 (101.6 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $7.97 (159.4 bb) {22/17, 2/2 fold to 3b, 0 fold to CB, 117 hands}

Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
UTG raises to $0.12, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40

So here we're bluffing, he has to fold 66.7% of the time for it to be profitable in a vacuum, obviously we can have a higher EV with a smaller sizing but a lot of the time I feel like if I go any smaller than like 3.5-4x I'm just going to get called super light..


MP: $12.66 (253.2 bb) {25/15, 27% ATS, 5/7 fold to 3b, 50% fold to cb, 268 hands}
Hero (CO): $12.50 (250 bb)
BTN: $18.73 (374.6 bb)
SB: $5.05 (101 bb)
BB: $5.89 (117.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T J
MP raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45

Here again we're bluffing, he has to fold 62.5% of the time for it to be profitable in a vacuum. I choose 3x because I think he's folding a lot and I want to get the cheapest price I can get... maybe I can go smaller, like 0.4 even. I'm IP this time around, which means I'm not as worried about bloating a pot as I'll be able to take a lot of free cards etc. post flop and control the size of the pot much easier, which might be an argument for betting larger vs. some opponents for more fold equity.


That's just a quick 3 rattled off, my basic thought process.