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    Thanks for those numbers spoon. I'm happy he has AK in his range right up until he raises turn, so I guess you're saying that if he raises turn half the time with AK, then we're still good to stack him?

    Cheers daven...

    seems pretty big, guess you don't have a 4b-fold or 4b bluff range here...
    Not vs an unknown. 4b sizing here seems about right to ensure his enitre range cannot make any money post flop. Any smaller and he's getting a decent price to setmine vs KK+, and being honest that's probably what my range is, although I'd expect him to think I have at least QQ and AK too.

    bet flop if you want to rep AK yo. You look like AA here a lot after that 4b sizing and this check.
    I don't think I bet AK here, not in a 4b pot where he hasn't got a great many pocket pairs. What am I hoping he folds? But this doesn't matter, because villain should have no idea how I play AA or AK in this spot. Checking feels weak, which is what I want villain to think. I would expect villain to expect me to cbet AA here close to 100%.

    disagree x2
    Ok I should be more clear. I don't think I get three streets of value out of anything except AQ. By checking flop I figure I *might* get an extra street off any pocket pairs he does have, such as TT/JJ, when the board runs clean from villain's pov. If I bet flop, I get one street from those hands at best. And I expect him to bet AQ, but if he doesn't, that's fine because I usually still get two streets off him. I feel like checking flop gains extra value off some of his range, at the expense of *maybe* one street from his AQ. And I'm not even sure he has AQ in his range, so that seems like a reasonable sacrifice.
    Last edited by OngBonga; 09-18-2014 at 04:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Not vs an unknown. 4b sizing here seems about right to ensure his enitre range cannot make any money post flop. Any smaller and he's getting a decent price to setmine vs KK+
    max he can win from a call into this pot after rake is about (.07+0.52+.95*8.23*2)/2 = $8.10. Then even when he hits a set (1/9) and the money goes in, you have about 10% when you didn't also hit a set, and the nuts when you did. Yeah, plus you are assuming you have an inability to fold postflop, but you have a fold button, especially cos AK is in your range here.

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I don't think I bet AK here, not in a 4b pot where he hasn't got a great many pocket pairs. What am I hoping he folds?
    if you were to cbet, what's your cbet sizing in this spot with your entire range? I like 90c. Also, he can easily have KK here and he isn't folding that, plus with that sizing he can even spaz raise things like jacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Ok I should be more clear. I don't think I get three streets of value out of anything except AQ.
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