Double Day Unlimited Werewolf

[baudib]

Rascal get in here.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Oh snap.

I thought Hoopy was an hour late.

Hang on. I thought I was already dead.

I'm starting food now. Back in a bit.

[GatorJH]

Is it just me or is MMM fighting REAL hard to stay alive. After bagging a wolf on D1 I am not sure I would fight that hard.

It doesn't matter to me which of Rascal or MMM we lynch today as long as the other is lynched tomorrow (if we are wrong today).

If neither of those two is the final wolf I would take a harder look at baudib. Some of his posts look villagery, but a lot more look very flippant which is a strategy I have used very successfully as a wolf in prior games.

[GatorJH]

"Fight that hard as a villager" is what that should have said

[baudib]

I'm 100% with Gator

[lilrascal]

Just got in and I see I have a lot to catch up on.

[lilrascal]

rescind baudib

I don't want his lynch sealed by rascal before he responds.

If baudib is villager, rascal is my top suspect because of the way he's positioning himself to seal the lynch. rascal isn't very wolfy, but he isn't very villagery either.

How am I positioning myself to seal the lynch? That doesn't even make sense to me based on my lack of participation this game because of work and travel.

I was surprised there wasn't a MAJ when I checked in toninght.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Is it just me or is MMM fighting REAL hard to stay alive. After bagging a wolf on D1 I am not sure I would fight that hard.

That looks like me fighting hard, eh?

That was me giving up. I though the day was over and we were just waiting for Hoopy to tell us.

Yet you capitalize 'real' in the above.

[MadMojoMonkey]

rescind baudib

Re-reading.

[MadMojoMonkey]

MMM if you're a villager you need to self-pres

This is the post that got me to rescind, btw.

[lilrascal]

MMM, can you give me some cliffs and your thoughts?

Also, have you figured out how to do a spreadsheet with the double votes?

[MadMojoMonkey]

I was surprised there wasn't a MAJ when I checked in toninght.

You and I are tied at L-1, by my count.

baudib wants me to vote the hammer on you out of self pres.

[baudib]

I'm not sure there is MAJ in this game.

[lilrascal]

rescind baudib

I don't want his lynch sealed by rascal before he responds.

You and I are tied at L-1, by my count.

baudib wants me to vote the hammer on you out of self pres.

Where is baud's vote?. For that matter, what is the current vote count?

[MadMojoMonkey]

MMM, can you give me some cliffs and your thoughts?

Also, have you figured out how to do a spreadsheet with the double votes?

I'm the center of attention right now. I'm going to do a re-read right now.

Probably better to get a quick summary from someone with more V-cred and less heat on them.

[lilrascal]

rescind baudib

I don't want his lynch sealed by rascal before he responds.

Rules are as follows.

You may vote for as many people as you like at once. i.e.

lynch Warpe
lynch flomo

puts votes on both of them. Make sure you bold rescinds or just rescind all.

2 lynches per day. 1 after 48hrs, then the other 48hrs later. If a majority is reached the lynch happens straight away.

After 2 lynches the wolves have a nightkill. Night lasts 24hrs with no talking.

Self votes or self lynches are not valid. No lynch is not an option.

Don't talk about the game outside of the thread!

Don't post any correspondence with me.

Yes, there is MAJ.

[lilrascal]

I'm the center of attention right now. I'm going to do a re-read right now.

Probably better to get a quick summary from someone with more V-cred and less heat on them.

baudib, cliffs?

[MadMojoMonkey]

voter || who they're voting for

baudib || MMM
BID ||rascal
gabe || MMM
Gator || rascal
JKDS || rascal, MMM
lilrascal || MMM
MMM || (no vote)
Ong || rascal


***
My spreadsheet is an ugly mess. I have kept track of the votes, but I don't have any way of graphing them.

[lilrascal]

This MQ not clearing is messing with me.

[baudib]

I think MMM is a wolf.

[lilrascal]

You and I are tied at L-1, by my count.

baudib wants me to vote the hammer on you out of self pres.

So, baudib who is voting for you wants you to self pres to lynch me? Am I understanding that right?

[MadMojoMonkey]

So, baudib who is voting for you wants you to self pres to lynch me? Am I understanding that right?

Yep.

[lilrascal]

I think MMM is a wolf.

Then why do you want him to MAJ me?

[lilrascal]

Yep.

Wow.

rescind MMM
lynch baudib

[baudib]

I don't want him to MAJ anyone. MMM is basically being super anti-village and mopey, and can't even make a coherent argument as to why anyone who is voting for him or anyone of his viable counterwagons can/should be a wolf.

any villager should self-pres in his spot.

[lilrascal]

I think MMM is a wolf.

Do you have a case against him, other than him possibly taking the fall for my mislynch?

Yes, I was voting for him too, because I didn't see anyone wolfier until now.

[baudib]

Do you have a case against him, other than him possibly taking the fall for my mislynch?

Yes, I was voting for him too, because I didn't see anyone wolfier until now.

read the posts I made about him talking about JKDS

frankly, I don't care which of you gets lynched at this point, because we probably always lynch the other tomorrow.

[lilrascal]

I don't want him to MAJ anyone. MMM is basically being super anti-village and mopey, and can't even make a coherent argument as to why anyone who is voting for him or anyone of his viable counterwagons can/should be a wolf.

any villager should self-pres in his spot.

How is he being super anti-village? I'm still catching up on today's posts.

[baudib]

Rascal, you aren't getting me lynched today.

I'll give you 30 mins to vote someone else or I'll MAJ you with zero ragrets.

[baudib]

How is he being super anti-village? I'm still catching up on today's posts.

his defense is

"you're too stupid to learn from your mistake"

he isn't making any case on anyone, including not making a case on why he's a villager

his posts are AIDS on a stick

read the stuff about JKDS please.

[lilrascal]

read the posts I made about him talking about JKDS

frankly, I don't care which of you gets lynched at this point, because we probably always lynch the other tomorrow.

LOL. What's your case on me? Let me guess, I haven't been around.

I explained that work's gotten insane and you saw that on the last day of the MU game when I was mislynched as the cop/seer because I couldn't get into the thread to defend myself.

[baudib]

LOL. What's your case on me? Let me guess, I haven't been around.

I explained that work's gotten insane and you saw that on the last day of the MU game when I was mislynched as the cop/seer because I couldn't get into the thread to defend myself.

the case on you is just about everyone else except you and MMM have done some villagery things this game.

[lilrascal]

his defense is

"you're too stupid to learn from your mistake"

he isn't making any case on anyone, including not making a case on why he's a villager

his posts are AIDS on a stick

read the stuff about JKDS please.

Point them out to me.

[OngBonga]

rescind rascal

[baudib]

read the past 2 pages?

[lilrascal]

the case on you is just about everyone else except you and MMM have done some villagery things this game.

What, voting the afk player with one post that happened to flip wolf?

I'm doing my best to catch up and a little help would be nice rather than threats.

[OngBonga]

I'm going to bed. How long is left?

[lilrascal]

read the past 2 pages?

Not yet, I'm working on it and trying to interact as well.

[baudib]

What, voting the afk player with one post that happened to flip wolf?

I'm doing my best to catch up and a little help would be nice rather than threats.

what are you even saying here? The people voting the wolf don't get any cred?

[baudib]

I'm going to bed. How long is left?

10 hours or something

[OngBonga]

Yeah I think it's 1pm.

Fuck this aids then. I'll be back before deadline.

[baudib]

rascal read 385 and 405

[lilrascal]

what are you even saying here? The people voting the wolf don't get any cred?

In this case, I don't think so. With an afk wolf that is getting heat, it would be easy to bus in that case, especially in a game without a seer. Someone, could ride that vote for days.

I don't know if that's what happened, but Luco's lynch wasn't wolf hunting to me, but just getting rid of the afk player.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I'm rereading; don't maj me out of context. My reads on everyone are in the thread, despite what baudib says.

By the time I was bickering with baudib, I thought the day was basically over.

Me saying that baudib wont learn anything from ML me is a separate comment that has no bearing on the game and is in no way supposed to be any kind of explanation for myself. Other than that baudib is wrong about me and if he manages to ML me, then he's going to blame me for it and learn nothing / improve none.

I asked gabe why he's voting me (twice), and he still hasn't answered.

[lilrascal]

rascal read 385 and 405

You make some good points in those posts. That may have been why my vote was on him this morning.

I've got to finish rereading.

rescind all

[gabe]

I don't know if that's what happened, but Luco's lynch wasn't wolf hunting to me, but just getting rid of the afk player.

the fact that others appeared villy is included in the decision to lynch luco though


i think its +ev to lynch mmm and i cant pick anyone who is more +ev. this airplane wine has given me trouble remembering who MMM even thinks is more +ev than him

gator i dont find MMM necessarily fighting harder than avg at this point. i think MMM has some true grit and would not roll over dead if he was a solo wolf (anyone who does this is always a pussy. feel free to call me one if i ever get caught going this)

[lilrascal]

I find it incredibly interesting the baudib wagon shifting to MMM, which is mainly pushed by gator and gabe imo.

I'm pretending either gabe or gator as wolf doing this. Why? It doesn't make a lot of sense other than because it doesn't make a lot of sense, which may provide village cred, I dunno.

Maybe they think MMM is stronger in late game as a villager.

It's villagery nonetheless.

However, i'm on ongs side when he states MMM is village. It may be a couple days before this stande changes, unless something redic happens but I don't see that with one wolf remaining.

Due to my appreciation of gabe and gators game, I'd strongly consider changing my vote from baudib to someone else but that someone else would be lilrascal.

rescind baudib
lynch lilrascal

I've been reading BID as villa, but this post doesn't make sense to me unless he's trying to pocket gabe and gator. He calls both of them out as the possible wolf, then says he respects their games and then votes for me.

I don't see his logic or any progression in this vote.

[gabe]

I asked gabe why he's voting me (twice), and he still hasn't answered.

i'm back in the thread after after a serious wine session with this stranger next to me on my 2nd flight of the day


i explained you had some wolfy vibes. i'm sure i did this at one point. i have not been able to pinpoint as many wolfy vibes in other people. jkds, and gator all have them to some extent. rascal and bid i'm weary of because i would HATE it if they were a wolf and i didnt step up and catch it. and i'm not worried about ong and baudib for now. that leaves you. the fact you keep asking this makes me more skeptical of you, but by all means... do you

[gabe]

I've been reading BID as villa, but this post doesn't make sense to me unless he's trying to pocket gabe and gator. He calls both of them out as the possible wolf, then says he respects their games and then votes for me.

I don't see his logic or any progression in this vote.

i'm not convinced at all BID is village... i know in the past he has had a kinda dumb image but i know he isnt dumb because ive seen him drop clever stuff on people. i know its possible he puts it all together and owns the village one day

[lilrascal]

baudib and jkds im sitting on a plane thinking about what you're both saying

Unlike rascal I'm paying for wifi

[baudib]

this is MMM's first post in the game. would village MMM feel this is necessary? i've bolded sections a wolf might make

click thru to see what Gabe bolded

i'm ready to lynch MMM. his posts dont do much to make me think he is village. he is just regurgitating and restating things without coming up with much. of course ong recently posted this:


but i completely disagree, in referenec to the post ong quoted, which follows:



this post has nothing in it. it would be very easy for a wolf to type this.

lynch MMM

[lilrascal]

rescind Baudib
Lynch Baudib

Why did you signal out luco here? He hadnt flipped wolf yet

Sounds like a ton of BS to me.

Know why?

Cuz GABE was also in my list of three. Gabe who hadnt even posted yet. Luco at least posted once.

So you see my list, and immediately think "NO WAY, NO CREDIT FOR LUCO"....but you dont say the same thing about gabe, you dont even think about gabe, and the reasoning applies even better to gabe.

You had luco on the brain baudib. Hes your wolf bro

Ya, and that parts fine. The problem is he didnt say the same thing about you, when I also voted for you in the same exact post. You hadnt even posted yet, but he makes a point of bringing luco up. Why'd he "forget" you, but remember luco? Its cuz luco means something to him while you dont.

Know why baudib brought up luco? Because luco is his partner, and sometimes people FUCK UP when they try and post all stream of conscience-like.

Throw in the post on page 3 where Baudib says "lynch me guys, im a burden" and "dont lynch me, you'll regret it" and you have 2 solid wolf tells in addition to a blatant favoring of a wolf. EZ GAME

This is a good catch by JKDS.

baudib, why did you single out Luco in that list of 3 on the first page? That doesn't seem like a slip you'd make, but your reaction to it being pointed out by JKDS doesn't feel right.

[gabe]

[gabe]

^completely pointless but its a long flight

[baudib]

I thought Luco was pretty much a = rand chance to hit a wolf and not one you really get credit for in the manner JKDS was suggesting.

[lilrascal]

LOL

[lilrascal]

That LOL was directed at Gabe's post.

[lilrascal]

rescind all (cuz easier to read)

lynch
Luco
gabe
Gator
baudib

Special note: I took MMM off the list because I dont think wolf mmm goes absent as often as villager mmm does.

How sick would it be if that list of three was right? So sick. I'd never let yall live it down.

JKDS > rand to be a villager.

His D1 here is already better than last game.

it's not.

how do you get credit for Luco when he's essentially exactly = rand.

I just don't see the flow and logic of your post baudib. I could see it if you said they all were = rand, but why just mention Luco?

[baudib]

Why not? It seemed totally pointless at the time to be voting someone with 1 post and particularly to be claiming it was going to be some amazing read to get 2 wolves in a group of 3-4.

[lilrascal]

Why not? It seemed totally pointless at the time to be voting someone with 1 post and particularly to be claiming it was going to be some amazing read to get 2 wolves in a group of 3-4.

You have to admit that it is odd, when the the only one of the three (not counting you) that you point out in that list turns out to be a wolf.

[baudib]

as much as MMM wants to make it about me (for no apparent reason), we have a spot where we know Gabe and Gator cannot be W-W.

they both want to lynch the same guy.

we should always lynch that guy.

[baudib]

You have to admit that it is odd, when the the only one of the three (not counting you) that you point out in that list turns out to be a wolf.

it's odd

[lilrascal]

as much as MMM wants to make it about me (for no apparent reason), we have a spot where we know Gabe and Gator cannot be W-W.

they both want to lynch the same guy.

we should always lynch that guy.

No two people can be W-W at this point since there's only 1 wolf left, so I don't see your point here.

[baudib]

No two people can be W-W at this point since there's only 1 wolf left, so I don't see your point here.

well if there was a possibility of them being W-W we should take their advice with a grain of salt.

we know one of them is a villager.

[gabe]

just like baudib said earlier, its not like i'm feeling MMM is mostly a wolf. if i loooooved my read on him i would be pushing it hard. since there is only 1 wolf left its not going to be a cakewalk to bag 'em but i still like the shot. its hard for me to do analysis at this point however i will be checking in tomorrow before lynch time fo sho

[baudib]

lynch is in like 8-9 hours or something.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Meh. I reread. I got nothing to add.

I honestly don't have the fight in me to try to find shadows in all the chatter. I can barely form a sentence that I don't second guess as to how you'll pull it all apart. Which means I need sleep. This game is pissing me off more than being fun. So I guess that also means I need sleep.

So take me out if you have to. I have work tomorrow from late morning until late evening. I'll check in a few times throughout the day.

***
note:

Gabe's push on me has history. ITT, I mean.
I thought he just popped it up out of nowhere, but he makes a few posts to that effect.

I replied, but he's still on me.

[baudib]

Let me requote this

as much as MMM wants to make it about me (for no apparent reason), we have a spot where we know Gabe and Gator cannot be W-W.

they both want to lynch the same guy.

we should always lynch that guy.

I mean I think people forget how good Gator is at soul reading wolves.


GABE AND GATOR WANT TO LYNCH MMM. WE SHOULD ALWAYS LYNCH MMM HERE.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Gator is voting on lilrascal, not on me.

lynch baudib

Good night.

[gabe]

This game is pissing me off more than being fun.

cmonnnn this should only be fun. theres no stakes

[lilrascal]

With all the back and forth with MMM and baudib and the points brought up against both of them, I think there's a decent chance one of them is the final wolf.

lynch MMM
lynch baudib

I'll relook at things in the morning.

[baudib]

there's actually not any points to bring up against me.

[baudib]

not much of an effort by Rascal, and no effort from MMM.

I could flip a coin basically.

[baudib]

It's pretty evident that A. I'm a villager and that B. I'm not going to get lynched today, so I'm wrestling with which one of Rascal and MMM is desperate enough to not vote their obvious counter wagon in hopes of a Hail Mary where they can get 2 mislynches out of this group, and which one is just a villager playing weird.

I'm kinda leaning toward MMM being the clueless villager ATM, Rascal should certainly know better.

but it's close.

[gabe]

if that decision hurts your brain too much then maybe the wolf is jkds or bid