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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Well I'm not particularly keen on the kami lynch given my read on drew. I don't know drew's alignment, yet I will still factor in what I think that is into my reads on other people.

    I can't help it if you don't find it compelling. I can't help it if you're being influenced by someone who tells you that blending in and fence sitting is part of my wolf game, when I'm doing exactly the opposite of that.
    Okay: hit me again with your current reads and why you have them. Talk me into what you want me to see in this gamestate.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom View Post
    Okay: hit me again with your current reads and why you have them. Talk me into what you want me to see in this gamestate.
    drew - claims soulread wolf read on me, doesn't vote for me, jumps on the wagon I started. How is that villagery?

    luco - his tone changed when I called him out of the kami wincon thing. That could be a slip.

    kami - she's not looking great, but given my read on drew, I think she's a villager. If I'm wrong about drew, all eyes on kami again.

    rilla - bang in his wolf range. When he's villager, he drives the conversation and hunts like a beast. When he's wolf, he freezes up. So far so bad.

    I have tom and mojo as my strongest villager leans.

    Everyone else is more or less null, or not strong enough a lean to be noteworthy at least.
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    drew - claims soulread wolf read on me, doesn't vote for me, jumps on the wagon I started. How is that villagery?

    luco - his tone changed when I called him out of the kami wincon thing. That could be a slip.

    kami - she's not looking great, but given my read on drew, I think she's a villager. If I'm wrong about drew, all eyes on kami again.

    rilla - bang in his wolf range. When he's villager, he drives the conversation and hunts like a beast. When he's wolf, he freezes up. So far so bad.

    I have tom and mojo as my strongest villager leans.

    Everyone else is more or less null, or not strong enough a lean to be noteworthy at least.
    Why'd you address the audience rather than me directly?
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom View Post
    Why'd you address the audience rather than me directly?
    I deleted "you" and replaced it with "tom" for the benefit of everyone. If it gets quoted later, people don't have to ask who I was talking to. Why is this even a problem? Now it's starting to feel like you're just trying to find faults where there are none.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I deleted "you" and replaced it with "tom" for the benefit of everyone. If it gets quoted later, people don't have to ask who I was talking to. Why is this even a problem? Now it's starting to feel like you're just trying to find faults where there are none.
    It's another in a series of "that's not what I'd expect a villager to do" moments with you. I want you to make a compelling argument as to why I should believe and follow you, just as Drew did when I asked him to elaborate on his suspicions of you.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom View Post
    It's another in a series of "that's not what I'd expect a villager to do" moments with you. I want you to make a compelling argument as to why I should believe and follow you, just as Drew did when I asked him to elaborate on his suspicions of you.
    I don't think you should believe me and follow me. I think you should make your own mind up. You're asking me to compete with drew by making compelling arguments? How is drew's argument compelling? He tells you than my wolf tells are trying to blend in and sitting on the fence. Is that what you think I'm doing here? Is that what you think drew thinks I'm doing? I'm not particularly interested in follow me or follow drew. Follow yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I don't think you should believe me and follow me. I think you should make your own mind up. You're asking me to compete with drew by making compelling arguments? How is drew's argument compelling? He tells you than my wolf tells are trying to blend in and sitting on the fence. Is that what you think I'm doing here? Is that what you think drew thinks I'm doing? I'm not particularly interested in follow me or follow drew. Follow yourself.
    Am I not being clear enough? What I wanted to see was some passion, some conviction, some chutzpah. Drew had it: the moment I asked him for more info he gleefully followed up and told me why he thinks you're a wolf. That's what villagers naturally want to do: be right and convince others that they're right, too. I didn't get the same vibe from you despite you saying more than once that Drew is definitely a wolf. Combine that with what I saw as a weird or unnatural series of responses to Drew's pressure on you and I'm not seeing your behaviors today as particularly villagery. Your last list post also just seem bad. I'm not a fan of "if Drew flips villa, all eyes on Kami" -- it's way too early to be ruling out certain people as not-wolves based on suspicions of someone being a wolf. Ever heard of busing? We haven't seen any flips yet regardless. I don't know, maybe you just had a bad morning or something today, but I'm skeptical.
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