Russians vs. Americans: A Werewolf Game for October 2015

[a500lbgorilla]

Can you point out Luco's for me?

The way this is worded is pinging me.

You've bolded her but haven't directly called her wolfy, just alluded to it. And that last sentence just smells like giving yourself an out for later.

Here she is.

[BankItDrew]

I thought you rescinded bigred because of the potential substitute?

3) ...

[a500lbgorilla]

Remember last game when I called kami 'bigred 2.0'? Yeah that. I remember FTR killing me off every D1 because of my shat play, so now that I'm trying to be one of the more active players - I want to sweep the garbage under the rug.

Bigred is crap, I'd be thrilled with a lynch there for that very reason.
I'd be satisfied with a kami lynch for the same reason - I'm yet to see much of a difference between the two.

I meant the OB tone read. Usually I have a solid villager read on OB by now and it ain't there. What were you seeing here?

[Luco]

Can you point out Luco's for me?

The way this is worded is pinging me.

You've bolded her but haven't directly called her wolfy, just alluded to it. And that last sentence just smells like giving yourself an out for later.

Here she is.

You really think I couldn't make that post as a wolf?

[BankItDrew]

I meant the OB tone read. Usually I have a solid villager read on OB by now and it ain't there. What were you seeing here?

As far as tone goes, when I read ongs posts, they feel like manufactured wolf posts. They're less convincing because it doesn't seem as though he's convinced. How often does village ong say things like "so and so is always a wolf here"? The only time ong's done that this game was after I called him a wolf and he looked at me. Which in itself is weaksauce, especially for ong who is usually a much stronger player.

[a500lbgorilla]

You really think I couldn't make that post as a wolf?

Yeah, when I read that post this morning I knew your head was in the game.

[Top Tier Tom]

BankItDrew is either a villager or one of the smoothest wolves I've seen, tone wise.

[BankItDrew]

BankItDrew is either a villager or one of the smoothest wolves I've seen, tone wise.

Making this my signature is not role-indicative!

[Luco]

Yeah, when I read that post this morning I knew your head was in the game.

I feel slightly insulted

[NightGizmo]

Take a slice at wuf, gabe

Gabe -- I'm used to Gabe posting a lot more, so I'm surprised he's been so quiet. I'm not thrilled by his poisoner questions -- seems like an odd suggestion, to have the village poisoner try to match the wolf -- I'm not sure how the village poisoner is supposed to know what the wolf poisoner is going to do. Leaning on the wolfy side, but it's not a very strong read. IIRC Gabe tends to throw out any idea that pops into his head, and they are often pretty out there. I'll be more concerned if he continues to stay quiet.

Wuf -- also really quiet. I don't like how he offered himself up for a cfd, but frankly there just isn't anything in his 5 posts that triggered anything to me. He was the first to point out that we shouldn't vote for bigred because of the sub, so I'm neutral on him.

[BankItDrew]

BankItDrew is either a villager or one of the smoothest wolves I've seen, tone wise.

As a wolf, I'm pretty terrible and obvious. Ask anyone other than wufwugy.

[OngBonga]

banktidrew is complaining about me having four wolf reads, then complaining I'm not going "so and so is a wolf" to anyone other than him.

I'll admit he's posting freely, which is a good sign with drew. But I feel like he's twisting whatever he sees to suit his agenda. He's making judgements about my performance half way through d1? Seriously? I've been utter shit the last two games on d1. drew is talking out of his arse. His motives betray his tone here, at least afaic.

[a500lbgorilla]

Gabe -- I'm used to Gabe posting a lot more, so I'm surprised he's been so quiet. I'm not thrilled by his poisoner questions -- seems like an odd suggestion, to have the village poisoner try to match the wolf -- I'm not sure how the village poisoner is supposed to know what the wolf poisoner is going to do. Leaning on the wolfy side, but it's not a very strong read. IIRC Gabe tends to throw out any idea that pops into his head, and they are often pretty out there. I'll be more concerned if he continues to stay quiet.

On top of his out there ideas, he also pitches cryptic reads that are difficult to puzzle out - none so far.

[NightGizmo]

Yeah, when I read that post this morning I knew your head was in the game.

It does? All it means is that he read the thread. Honestly, to me it felt like he was reaching for something that wasn't there.

[OngBonga]

Making this my signature is not role-indicative!

This is a weird thing for a villager to say.

[a500lbgorilla]

banktidrew is complaining about me having four wolf reads, then complaining I'm not going "so and so is a wolf" to anyone other than him.

I'll admit he's posting freely, which is a good sign with drew. But I feel like he's twisting whatever he sees to suit his agenda. He's making judgements about my performance half way through d1? Seriously? I've been utter shit the last two games on d1. drew is talking out of his arse. His motives betray his tone here, at least afaic.

You broken, m8?

[OngBonga]

I mean why would a villager even think about making that his sig? A smug wolf might think about that.

[a500lbgorilla]

It does? All it means is that he read the thread. Honestly, to me it felt like he was reaching for something that wasn't there.

This is why I don't usually offer up the direct reasons that I pick people off as villager. It's difficult to describe but I knows it when I sees it.

[a500lbgorilla]

I mean why would a villager even think about making that his sig? A smug wolf might think about that.

"...But it's BID, so it's not role indicative"

[NightGizmo]

On top of his out there ideas, he also pitches cryptic reads that are difficult to puzzle out - none so far.

You asked for my thoughts on Gabe, I gave you the few I had. And I don't have any real "reads" -- it's just my gut on the little information available. Which I freely admit is very thin, considering my baseline opinion of him is from quite a while ago.

Frankly, I feel a lot more confident that you're a wolf after your last few posts, and going for a wolf > eliminating a useless player. lynch rilla

[NightGizmo]

On top of his out there ideas....

Also, what "out there ideas" have I had? That without reads it's a good idea to eliminate a player known to provide no value to the village?

[a500lbgorilla]

Well, don't get married to that read.

[a500lbgorilla]

Also, what "out there ideas" have I had? That without reads it's a good idea to eliminate a player known to provide no value to the village?

I was talking about gabe. I was agreeing with you post and adding on another bit of gabe that's been missing.

[a500lbgorilla]

Frankly, I feel a lot more confident that you're a wolf after your last few posts, and going for a wolf > eliminating a useless player. lynch rilla

What did you think I was posting?

[NightGizmo]

Bigred doesn't survive late into games often, when he does though, he still doesn't do much at all. One game he made it to a 2v1 spot as a villager and ended up picking the correct player to lynch but... 50/50 right?

His early afk stuff is never role indicative of anything other than being typical bigred.

Ha, yes, I was the lone remaining wolf in that game, and bigred actually figured me out on the last day. I got lucky that the third person went AFK and we won on a dice roll. But even in that game, he was barely around until pretty late in the game.

No reads to be found in his absence.

[NightGizmo]

I was talking about gabe. I was agreeing with you post and adding on another bit of gabe that's been missing.

Lol, oops. I thought you were saying that I had out there ideas and a cryptic read on Gabe. That changes things... Sorry about that.

kami

[Luco]

You asked for my thoughts on Gabe, I gave you the few I had. And I don't have any real "reads" -- it's just my gut on the little information available. Which I freely admit is very thin, considering my baseline opinion of him is from quite a while ago.

Frankly, I feel a lot more confident that you're a wolf after your last few posts, and going for a wolf > eliminating a useless player. lynch rilla

This kneejerk vote has a villagery feel to it

[Beck Novo]

I mean why would a villager even think about making that his sig? A smug wolf might think about that.

lol

You're pulling at straws now.

[lilrascal]

Just got in from work.

[lilrascal]

Luco, are you here for a few minutes to interact in real time?

[Top Tier Tom]

I have a lot of villagers, and not enough wolves

So either you guys have wolves that are pretty damn good at appearing villagery, or the wolves are some slanky mofos

[lilrascal]

I have a lot of villagers, and not enough wolves

So either you guys have wolves that are pretty damn good at appearing villagery, or the wolves are some slanky mofos

Some of the first, but I'm leaning more on the latter.

[lilrascal]

Still waiting to see if Luco shows up.

I've been skimming the thread to get the votes for my spreadsheet. While I agree that Kami isn't very helpful, I don't think that her lynch on D1 will give us any info.

[Luco]

Luco, are you here for a few minutes to interact in real time?

Ayy

[Luco]

HURRY UP RASCAL

[lilrascal]

Ayy

I have a quick question for you.

[lilrascal]

Luco, what's your first thought when you hear Russians vs. Americans?

[Luco]

Luco, what's your first thought when you hear Russians vs. Americans?

It was rocky IV until i got my role pm

[gabe]

Gabe is usually much more active with a very good content:quality ratio. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he mentioned being afk for much of D1. If I'm wrong in that - then gabe is odd this game.

for the record i did not say i would be AFK much on day 1. i said i was going to come at this game hard.

i had a crazy day yesterday on draftkings that culminates in the MNF game tonight. multiple huge scores are possible if keenan allen goes off. hard to focus on werewolf throughout the day so when i finally got settled i read the thread and just spit out what was in my head


dsaxton seems wolfy but we cant lynch him. pretty much everyone participating heavily i want to keep alive

[lilrascal]

It was rocky IV until i got my role pm

Why would you think Rocky IV? That's such an odd connection to make. Which is why your post:

Finally a rocky IV themed ww

DRAGOOOOO!

pinged me.

[Luco]

Why would you think Rocky IV? That's such an odd connection to make. Which is why your post:



pinged me.

Because it's a classic usa v russia movie?

[lilrascal]

Rocky IV and the name Drago that you mentioned are very specific and pings me as something you meant for wolf chat instead of the game thread.

[Luco]

Rocky IV and the name Drago that you mentioned are very specific and pings me as something you meant for wolf chat instead of the game thread.

this was not worth waiting for

[lilrascal]

Because it's a classic usa v russia movie?

Not so much, IMO. When did you last see that movie?

[Luco]

Not so much, IMO. When did you last see that movie?

last year?

[lilrascal]

last year?

Are you really that big a Rocky fan? I had to google it to remember which one was the one with the russian and then look for the boxer's name.

[Luco]

Are you really that big a Rocky fan? I had to google it to remember which one was the one with the russian and then look for the boxer's name.

I have the 6 movie boxset. And rocky IV is the best of them all

[lilrascal]

I have the 6 movie boxset. And rocky IV is the best of them all

That may be, but I still find it very suspicious, especially when it's your third post in the game.

[a500lbgorilla]

for the record i did not say i would be AFK much on day 1. i said i was going to come at this game hard.

i had a crazy day yesterday on draftkings that culminates in the MNF game tonight. multiple huge scores are possible if keenan allen goes off. hard to focus on werewolf throughout the day so when i finally got settled i read the thread and just spit out what was in my head


dsaxton seems wolfy but we cant lynch him. pretty much everyone participating heavily i want to keep alive

How's that now?

[Luco]

That may be, but I still find it very suspicious, especially when it's your third post in the game.

I don't know what you think you've found there rascal

but when I die you're getting egg on your face

[lilrascal]

Especially when your first post is a peek, your second is a vote on Rilla and then this reference to Rocky IV and Drago.

I'm not buying it.

[Luco]

Especially when your first post is a peek, your second is a vote on Rilla and then this reference to Rocky IV and Drago.

I'm not buying it.

Dude we did all this last game, focus

[lilrascal]

I don't know what you think you've found there rascal

but when I die you're getting egg on your face

I've caught wolves on simple slips like this. Why'd you mention Drago instead of Rocky Balboa?

[Luco]

Especially when your first post is a peek, your second is a vote on Rilla and then this reference to Rocky IV and Drago.

I'm not buying it.

vote on rilla was a reference to a commune post he made about hydrocephalus: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...02#post2247902

[Luco]

I've caught wolves on simple slips like this. Why'd you mention Drago instead of Rocky Balboa?

Because at the end of the montage he shouts DRAGOOOOOO from the top of the mountain

[Luco]

vote on rilla was a reference to a commune post he made about hydrocephalus: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...02#post2247902

For the lazy: the link discusses "virtual no brainers"

[lilrascal]

Because at the end of the montage he shouts DRAGOOOOOO from the top of the mountain

Ok, I'll go check on that.

[Luco]

Ok, I'll go check on that.

really?

[Luco]

rascal I've completely deconstructed your whole case. move on.

[lilrascal]

rascal I've completely deconstructed your whole case. move on.

No you haven't.

The link you provided, you responded to, not the other way around.

[Luco]

No you haven't.

The link you provided, you responded to, not the other way around.

What does this even mean?

[lilrascal]

vote on rilla was a reference to a commune post he made about hydrocephalus: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...02#post2247902

Explain how this post would make you want to vote for Rilla.

[Luco]

Explain how this post would make you want to vote for Rilla.

So I could use 'virtual no brainer' as a pun. Why are you trying to take that vote seriously?

[Top Tier Tom]

for the record i did not say i would be AFK much on day 1. i said i was going to come at this game hard.

i had a crazy day yesterday on draftkings that culminates in the MNF game tonight. multiple huge scores are possible if keenan allen goes off. hard to focus on werewolf throughout the day so when i finally got settled i read the thread and just spit out what was in my head


dsaxton seems wolfy but we cant lynch him. pretty much everyone participating heavily i want to keep alive

Did he even post?

[lilrascal]

So I could use 'virtual no brainer' as a pun. Why are you trying to take that vote seriously?

Ok, on the pun. I'm just trying to get a read on you this game and when things ping me I question them.

[Top Tier Tom]

Rascal what the hell are you going on about? I would say you're in a tunnel but it's more like you fell down a well

[Kami]

Lynch me more ples

[lilrascal]

Rascal what the hell are you going on about? I would say you're in a tunnel but it's more like you fell down a well

The Rocky IV WW theme quote seemed out of left field and it may have been intended for wolf chat rather than the game thread. I think it's possible that his character is Drago and he just messed up posting in the thread. A Drago character in Russians vs. Americans fits, but calling this a Rocky IV ww themed game makes me think he slipped.

[Top Tier Tom]

The Rocky IV WW theme quote seemed out of left field and it may have been intended for wolf chat rather than the game thread. I think it's possible that his character is Drago and he just messed up posting in the thread. A Drago character in Russians vs. Americans fits, but calling this a Rocky IV ww themed game makes me think he slipped.

How often do people post wolf chat messages in game threads? I don't think I've ever seen that.

[Luco]

Ok, on the pun. I'm just trying to get a read on you this game and when things ping me I question them.

Shit man, even if it wasn't clearly a joke vote to you right there and then, my follow up post should have definitely tipped you off

#40

You never seen revenge / joke / troll vote openers before?

[Luco]

The Rocky IV WW theme quote seemed out of left field and it may have been intended for wolf chat rather than the game thread. I think it's possible that his character is Drago and he just messed up posting in the thread. A Drago character in Russians vs. Americans fits, but calling this a Rocky IV ww themed game makes me think he slipped.

dear god

I am running out of palms

[lilrascal]

Shit man, even if it wasn't clearly a joke vote to you right there and then, my follow up post should have definitely tipped you off

#40

It's not just the vote, it's the timing of the posts. All within a few minutes. The Rocky post is what really pinged me.

[Luco]

It's not just the vote, it's the timing of the posts. All within a few minutes. The Rocky post is what really pinged me.

you need to finish reading up on me, I've posted a lot since then.

[lilrascal]

you need to finish reading up on me, I've posted a lot since then.

I plan to. I just wanted to get real time responses from you.

[Top Tier Tom]

I find this conversation fascinating

And ridiculous

Makes you both easier to read as villas at least