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    my issue with your premise for the op is you apply all sorts of agency where it's unnecessary or inapplicable. for example, the pay gap isn't being pushed by people who want women to have more money so they can spend more. actualization of that policy couldn't even have the proposed desired effect of creating more wealth for the rich white men in the first place. regardless, the women-are-oppressed narrative is emergent from society things we don't understand that well. there are no people at the top pushing it for a hidden agenda. it's pushed because people believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    my issue with your premise for the op is you apply all sorts of agency where it's unnecessary or inapplicable. for example, the pay gap isn't being pushed by people who want women to have more money so they can spend more. actualization of that policy couldn't even have the proposed desired effect of creating more wealth for the rich white men in the first place. regardless, the women-are-oppressed narrative is emergent from society things we don't understand that well. there are no people at the top pushing it for a hidden agenda. it's pushed because people believe it.
    I want to focus on the bold for a moment, particularly the part where "...because people believe it."

    The question to ask here is why people believe it. Do you believe that human beings have been around for thousands of years, and it just so happens that in the past 60-80 years, women have suddenly grown strong enough to figure out how to get the right to vote, etc? Or do you think it's more likely that the ruling class manipulated people into thinking that this was what needed to happen (and had the politicians in their pockets push it through)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I want to focus on the bold for a moment, particularly the part where "...because people believe it."

    The question to ask here is why people believe it. Do you believe that human beings have been around for thousands of years, and it just so happens that in the past 60-80 years, women have suddenly grown strong enough to figure out how to get the right to vote, etc? Or do you think it's more likely that the ruling class manipulated people into thinking that this was what needed to happen (and had the politicians in their pockets push it through)?
    there's a third way, that the individual incentive to stop something was small enough that a movement emerged unstopped. it's not so much that rich white men had a plan but that they were okay with changes that were coming. this is the common course history takes.

    even if rich white men had a plan, the plan doesn't make sense. rich white men don't get richer or more power by putting more money in the hands of women. that's a lefty faux economics idea (the currently popular notion that spending money creates money).

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