How do you know you're a person open to reason?

[wufwugy]

wuf, imagine you are about to take a nice bite out of your tomato, when i take it off you.

As far as you are concerned, I have just thieved it from you, because as far as you were concerned, it was yours.

Now I have it. Now it's mine. You can only have it if you thieve it back off me, right?

But is it theft when you take it back?

If you would like to make the argument that your taking of the tomato could give you moral right, you certainly can. But if you do, it's an implicit acknowledgment that morality regarding the issue exists regardless of the law.

[OngBonga]

If you would like to make the argument that your taking of the tomato could give you moral right, you certainly can. But if you do, it's an implicit acknowledgment that morality regarding the issue exists regardless of the law.

I can acknowledge morality plays a role without acknowledging that theft took place.

I can even say that I know I am acting immoraly by taking your tomato, but I'm till not committing "theft". To commit theft I have to acknowledge law, not morality.