**** Elections thread *****

[wufwugy]

Chairman Mao got really pissed off at one of the top generals (I forget what he did to him, kill him, imprison him, at minimum removed him from power, I forget) that commanded the Chinese forces during the Korean War, when he dared to criticize Chairman Mao for the mass famine that killed like 30+ million Chinese during the Great Leap Forward. I could see Trump doing this.

The message worked. A man who was hugely successful for many decades, whom nobody ever described in these terms, was turned into a monster. Robert Cialdini and the media sold bridges out in Hoax County like hotcakes. But now the bridges are crumbling.

[JimmyS1985]

The message worked. A man who was hugely successful for many decades, whom nobody ever described in these terms, was turned into a monster. Robert Cialdini and the media sold bridges out in Hoax County like hotcakes. But now the bridges are crumbling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cialdini

Had to look that one up, I got some reading to do now.

[wufwugy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cialdini

Had to look that one up, I got some reading to do now.

He wrote the most authoritative book in the topic of persuasion: Influence: Science and Practice. I haven't read his new book yet, but it's supposedly the best: Presuasion.

Anywho, he hasn't admitted that to working for Clinton's campaign, but the signs are there. One of the most prominent figures of persuasion, Scott Adams, has claimed many times Cialdini worked for the campaign and he laid out reasons he can tell. Cialdini and Adams have a professional relationship, and Cialdini never denied any of it. I briefly discussed this earlier. Clinton and coordinated media used Cialdini-esque messaging tactics during the times Cialdini was not on book tour.

[Poopadoop]

I haven't read his new book yet, but it's supposedly the best: Presuasion.

Maybe that's just what he's convinced you to think.

[wufwugy]

Maybe that's just what he's convinced you to think.

Yep. A great thing about studying persuasion is that you see it even when it's targeted at you.

[Poopadoop]

Originally Posted by JimmyS1985
Chairman Mao got really pissed off at one of the top generals (I forget what he did to him, kill him, imprison him, at minimum removed him from power, I forget) that commanded the Chinese forces during the Korean War, when he dared to criticize Chairman Mao for the mass famine that killed like 30+ million Chinese during the Great Leap Forward. I could see Trump doing this.

The message worked. A man who was hugely successful for many decades, whom nobody ever described in these terms, was turned into a monster. Robert Cialdini and the media sold bridges out in Hoax County like hotcakes. But now the bridges are crumbling.

Either I'm missing something, or this response is a complete non-sequitur.

[wufwugy]

Either I'm missing something, or this response is a complete non-sequitur.

He said "I could see Trump doing this."

I think the reason so many people have this opinion is what I earlier laid out in the persuasion tactics of his opponents.

[Poopadoop]

He said "I could see Trump doing this."

I think the reason so many people have this opinion is what I earlier laid out in the persuasion tactics of his opponents.

Ah gotcha.

He apparently does already have an 'enemies list' however.

[wufwugy]

Ah gotcha.

He apparently does already have an 'enemies list' however.

In his books he discusses how important he thinks it is to never let people who attack you get away with it. We've seen this in action for years from Trump. Like before the campaign, whenever he got attacked on twitter or in the media, he countered even harder. During the campaign he did it a lot at first but less so later, probably because voters don't like it.

The strategy seems to have merit. He killed many different narratives against him with this tactic.

[Poopadoop]

During the campaign he did it a lot at first but less so later, probably because voters don't like it.

Also because they changed his password.

The strategy seems to have merit. He killed many different narratives against him with this tactic.

That's one interpretation. Another is that people just got bored of trolling him. It's just too easy to get under his skin.

[Poopadoop]

Reminds me of a kid in school everyone would tease just because he completely overreacted to it. It's like he never figured out the reason people teased him was to see him overreact.

[wufwugy]

Also because they changed his password.




That's one interpretation. Another is that people just got bored of trolling him. It's just too easy to get under his skin.

His actions to the Trump University Judge Curiel stuff was just too good. His own party thought he did that one wrong, and rumor is in private Trump was calling them idiots. I think Trump was right. The media tried to paint Trump as racist because of it, but one thing resulted from that situation: the Trump University attacks were deader than a door nail.