Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
Well excuse me if I just don't see your point. Yes, there is a difference between candidate Trump and President Trump. Welcome to American politics. I don't see why that shocks or offends anyone. It happened plenty with all 44 previous presidents, so why is it such a crime when Trump does it too.

It's merely a symptom of prioritizing an infinite agenda. A problem faced by every president, ever.


You can't please all of the people all of the time. If anyone is having their cake and eating it too, it's the folks trying to push this narrative that impugns Trump for not doing everything he said, exactly the way he said it. They want a moderate president, but they criticize Trump for being moderate.

Obama promised to end wars in the middle east. We're still there. He promised to close Gitmo, it's still open. He promised comprehensive health care reform. It was written in sand, and is poised to be washed away by the tide in the next 6 months. Obama made progress on all of those things, but clearly fell short of the goal.

This is the liberal bias. Obama can show partial results, or make excuses, or blame republicans. Trump is afforded no such luxuries. It seems that it's 'all or nothing'. He promised a muslim immigration ban. He landed on a 3 month pause with the 7 most dangerous countries so as to improve vetting.

He promised to deport all 12 million illegal immigrants. Right now he's focused on stopping new illegal immigration, and clearing out dangerous criminals from among those already here. After that, if he his policy takes a humanitarian turn towards amnesty for the remaining however many "law-abiding" immigrants, are you really gonna roast the guy for being dishonest??

He promised to go after Hillary. Upon being elected, he may have decided he had better things to do. You think that makes him dishonest? It's like you're saying that two boxers who fight in a ring, should also be full of hate and want to fight when they see each other in the street.

If you don't recognize that there are going to be differences between candidates on campaigns, and elected officials serving in office, even when those two are physically teh same person, then you're just not living in reality man.

I think you're illustrating the stubborn intolerance of the liberal side. They seem to believe that when a candidate is elected, that he then gets to implement his entire platform with impunity. They believe that whoever is president gets to do what he wants...because he won. Obama famously stated that "elections have consequences" and that's how he ran his presidency, and it's a big reason why he was so ineffective once his party lost control of congress. It's why he has a dizzying record number of Executive Orders under his name, and so many of his primary accomplishments are written in sand.

you see it when democratic lawmakers get on the house floor and rail against republicans for not having a ready-to-go healthcare bill to replace Obamacare. Well....maybe they want some input from the other side. Maybe they're willing to compromise. Maybe they realize that elected officials need to serve ALL the people, not just the ones who voted from them

If Trump decides to let Hillary off the hook, why should that impugn his credibility? He's taking a position that is popular among ALL americans. Just because it pisses off a sliver of the base that voted for him, doesn't mean he's being a bad president, or a phony candidate by adjusting his position.

or, even if his position is unchanged, that doesn't mean he's obligated to act. Again, he's faced with the problem of prioritizing an infinite agenda. That means there's gonna be some stuff at the end of the list that doesn't get done.

Hey, it's not me who's defending him. I don't watch him hoping he follows through on all his idiotic promises. I've been arguing most of these are bad ideas. I'd think more of him if he didn't try to ban muslims or jail his political opponents. Sorry if you've confused me with someone else.