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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Seems obvious. A positive number minus a smaller positive number equals a number greater than zero, and a volume greater than zero is not a singularity.
    The radius of the universe was smaller than the Swarzchild radius for that mass.

    Why was it expanding, and not collapsing under the curvature of spacetime caused by that much mass-energy in that small a volume?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Why was it expanding, and not collapsing under the curvature of spacetime caused by that much mass-energy in that small a volume?
    Umm... because it was rotating at an incomprehensible rate, and therefore inertial forces were of the order required to do battle with gravity? That's my best guess.

    It has been transformed predominantly into heat and the gravitational potential energy stored in the curvature of spacetime.
    Right, so the energy still exists. The "annhiliation" of the matter and antimatter isn't annihilation in the context of "obliteration", it's to "convert to radiation". So all that matter and antimatter that was annihilating each other in the very early universe, it still contributes to the mass of the universe, because its energy remains part of the system. It's still "stuff".
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Umm... because it was rotating at an incomprehensible rate, and therefore inertial forces were of the order required to do battle with gravity? That's my best guess.
    My only critique is that IF the universe started as an idealized point mass (not even sure how absurd that is), then the notion that it was rotating is absurd. A thing with no measurable length dimension cannot be said to be rotating in any meaningful way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Right, so the energy still exists. The "annhiliation" of the matter and antimatter isn't annihilation in the context of "obliteration", it's to "convert to radiation". So all that matter and antimatter that was annihilating each other in the very early universe, it still contributes to the mass of the universe, because its energy remains part of the system. It's still "stuff".
    Which is true, but doesn't address, "Why, of all the stuff that's left, is there ANY matter, and not just energy?"

    "So all that matter and antimatter that was annihilating each other in the very early universe"

    Ahem: most of that matter and all of that antimatter

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