Why do we believe in math?

[wufwugy]

I thought so, see my previous answers.

You'd have to provide answers then.

If you were attempting to understand this stuff on a level to get ahead in some way and use that shit to exploit I could get behind it but I don't think that is the case.

Why assume that isn't what I'm doing? It's about half that and about half I like to actually understand things instead of tricking myself into believing things that are wrong.

I think that religious ideas are emergent from human biology and psychology -- or perhaps from consciousness itself -- but I would like to not simply assume it the way most atheists do. You learn by attacking what you believe.

[Savy]

Course you do because you have dog in the fight and just realising it's all bullshit isn't enough.

What is important about humans is that we like to think about things and more than just thinking about things we like to be able to answer things.

There are two things to realise

1 - Taking a position of not knowing is a position of weakness, this is bad because it's hard to rally behind which in the past it results in being wiped out or at the very least taking a lower position in society.

2 - Of every religion that has existed most don't exist now. One didn't start and win. If you want to look at the one that is winning and draw conclusions you need to really understand survivorship bias. Thinking things like storytelling are special to any sect is madness it's how we have conveyed information. It's an asset to our species not to any religion.

As I'm sure I've said before atheism is a bullshit label everyone would take the position of agnostic atheist (horrible term) if we wanted to take the truth approach. I don't know but as a result of that I'm not going to believe in random shit for the sake of it.

[Savy]

You'd have to provide answers then.

Can I not take a note from religious teaching and just say vague shit to let people draw their own understanding? The only difference is mine takes some logic to find what I'm talking about rather than being open ended shit we can all be happy with.