**** Elections thread *****

[JKDS]

All I see is you not liking what you've heard. The only points you make are ones which paint the dems as bad guys and the Republicans as good guys. You argue an unsupportable position, which relies entirely on cherry picking information and sources. While others rightfully concede points, you do not. While others seek the truth, you beat the drum. It's a game.

No, the Republicans have not "barely existed in the drug war for decades." You can only reach that position by doing what I outlined above. You cannot argue that the dems are spoonfeeding drugs to their supporters while refraining from acknowledging that such an act would result in less supporters. Yes yes yes, the "welfare state" may (it's just a may) also contribute to bringing minorities down. But it is disingenuous to the extreme to ignore the many other factors while you go on beating your drum.

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You know, maybe I'm just taking my irritation out on you. One of my Facebook friends just made a post about how she's talking to her very almost newborn, and how he's gonna be born a white male and "what that means". My android Google feed is full of blog posts from one liberal idiot to one conservative idiot, each cherry picking point's and each ignoring the other side completely. I'm sick of it. It's all garbage, fueling whatever they want to fuel. Here comes a blogger talking about why nazis are bad, look out. I bet that'll get clicks, but dare touch the protester's actual platform. Focus on the worst. Paint them all as evil, wear the white hat. It's all just intellectual junk.

I think I expect better here. This forum was a huge source of growth for me. I never had the drive to be a pro, but learning the theory has redefined how I view pretty much everything. That only happened because this was a site with smart people posting smart things.

But now, all I see when I log in is yet another partisan post. There's no actual discussion, no learning of new information. Just the drum.

It makes me sad. In a very sincere way. And I don't really know where to go for a discussion like what used to happen here.

[wufwugy]

All I see is you not liking what you've heard. The only points you make are ones which paint the dems as bad guys and the Republicans as good guys. You argue an unsupportable position, which relies entirely on cherry picking information and sources. While others rightfully concede points, you do not. While others seek the truth, you beat the drum. It's a game.

No, the Republicans have not "barely existed in the drug war for decades." You can only reach that position by doing what I outlined above. You cannot argue that the dems are spoonfeeding drugs to their supporters while refraining from acknowledging that such an act would result in less supporters. Yes yes yes, the "welfare state" may (it's just a may) also contribute to bringing minorities down. But it is disingenuous to the extreme to ignore the many other factors while you go on beating your drum.

I'm no fan of Republicans. Democrats aren't feeding people drugs. Republicans haven't been a sizable part of policy in black communities for decades.

You know, maybe I'm just taking my irritation out on you. One of my Facebook friends just made a post about how she's talking to her very almost newborn, and how he's gonna be born a white male and "what that means". My android Google feed is full of blog posts from one liberal idiot to one conservative idiot, each cherry picking point's and each ignoring the other side completely. I'm sick of it. It's all garbage, fueling whatever they want to fuel. Here comes a blogger talking about why nazis are bad, look out. I bet that'll get clicks, but dare touch the protester's actual platform. Focus on the worst. Paint them all as evil, wear the white hat. It's all just intellectual junk.

I think I expect better here. This forum was a huge source of growth for me. I never had the drive to be a pro, but learning the theory has redefined how I view pretty much everything. That only happened because this was a site with smart people posting smart things.

But now, all I see when I log in is yet another partisan post. There's no actual discussion, no learning of new information. Just the drum.

It makes me sad. In a very sincere way. And I don't really know where to go for a discussion like what used to happen here.

I'm sorry for this.

You do get better here. If you ever see me (or others) make a post you think is wrongly partisan, point it out (outside of the Trump shitposting, I guess, which I hardly do anymore but have in the past).

You are correct that the debates are pretty much about each participant focusing on how to best represent his preferred idea. It's kinda always been like that.