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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    You're making the assumption that this is Trump's motive, and you're doing so to justify your charge of racism.

    Best I can tell, he was insulting her. He probably does think he is superior to her... on a personal level. Like, he probably thinks he's superior to most people, since he's a highly successful businessman turned President.

    That's arrogance, not racism. If he holds this view towards all Hispanic people, regardless of thier actual place in society, then yes he's being racist. Does he hold this view? That is not clear based on the facts. So you're jumping to conclusions in an effort to charge Trump with a more serious accusation than simple arrogance.
    No, you're trying to find a loophole whereby calling a hispanic woman Ms. Housekeeping isn't racist, but something else.

    But obviously there's only one way to interpret that insult, just like there's only one way to interpret Mr. Petrol Station.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    No, you're trying to find a loophole whereby calling a hispanic woman Ms. Housekeeping isn't racist, but something else.

    But obviously there's only one way to interpret that insult, just like there's only one way to interpret Mr. Petrol Station.
    Again, superiority. Based on race.

    You can interpret it how you like, but it's your interpretation of racism. And it's wrong.
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Again, superiority. Based on race.
    That's pretty much the very definition of racism.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    That's pretty much the very definition of racism.
    Yes, that's my point. This isn't what Trump did, unless you wish to guess his motive. I'm guessing his motive too, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt where the motive is not obvious. I'm assuming his motive was to insult an individual. You're assuming his motive is to insult a race of people.
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Yes, that's my point. This isn't what Trump did, unless you wish to guess his motive. I'm guessing his motive too, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt where the motive is not obvious. I'm assuming his motive was to insult an individual. You're assuming his motive is to insult a race of people.
    So if someone calls a person by a racist slur they're not being racist they're just being mean to that one person. Not sure about that.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So if someone calls a person by a racist slur they're not being racist they're just being mean to that one person. Not sure about that.
    Well then you're not sure about the definition of racism.

    If I call a Chinese person a Chinky, well I'm not being racist because I consider the Chinese to be a wonderful race of people, I certainly do not believe that white people are superior to Chinese. So by definition, I am not being racist. However, people assume it's racist because people assume racism is simply saying mean things.

    This is what I mean about the word "racism" being diluted from its original meaning.
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  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Well then you're not sure about the definition of racism.
    Pot/Kettle situation brewing here.

    If I call a Chinese person a Chinky,
    C'mon, you can do better

    well I'm not being racist because I consider the Chinese to be a wonderful race of people, I certainly do not believe that white people are superior to Chinese. So by definition, I am not being racist. However, people assume it's racist because people assume racism is simply saying mean things
    If you and your Chinese friend have a rapport that allows you to use insensitive language with each other when you're alone, then great. You call him chinky, he calls you soccer-pussy, it's all in good fun. But if other people, who aren't in on your little joke, hear you use the word "chinky" then you had better believe it is racist.

    This is what I mean about the word "racism" being diluted from its original meaning.
    Nah, it pretty much means the same thing. You're saying that it's more important to have your little inside joke, than it is to avoid insulting the dignity of of anyone with east asian facial features.

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