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    Only first sentence relevant, but didn't want to quote out of context.
    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    The most basic argument for white nationalism is that there is benefit in allowing different people to have their own homelands without having them forced into diversity for the sake of diversity. There are reasonable arguments and data to support this argument. Logically, you cannot be a white nationalist without also being an [insert race/ethnicity] nationalist. It's ultimately a sub-set of liking to have well-defined borders between things.

    The problem is that a majority of [insert race/ethnicity] nationalists of any type aren't necessarily logical and don't necessarily give a shit about the reasonable arguments. When any type of [insert race/ethnicity] nationalism is combined with [same race/ethnicity] supremacy, it results in wanting to kill off everyone else and to create a master race and all of this other ridiculousness. Since most white nationalists, for example, are also white supremacists, it's easy to see how that's a problem.

    For what it's worth, there's also the odd group who are white supremacists but who are not white nationalists. They tend to be the least violent or aggressive towards other racists/ethnic groups, and they also tend to feel they are simply being realists and that they have no reason to be hostile to other groups due to being the best or whatever.

    For myself, I'm not a white nationalist, but I am a nationalist.

    Edit: I want to point out also that the overwhelming majority of white supremacists are in the bottom 50 percent of the intelligence and socioeconomic pool.

    Edit 2: Random but perhaps interesting, most people I have seen wanting to incorporate race play into their sex lives have been black women wanting to be degraded by a white man. Second place is white men wanting to be degraded by a black man, usually by fucking his wife/significant other in a cuckold arrangement (I suspect porn has something to do with this). Third place is Asian girls wanting to be dominated (note the difference in the verb) by white men.
    I don't think you can "allow" people to have their own homeland without displacing other people, unless you want to find a nice patch of jungle and recreate your own Jonestown. Even if you could I don't think ethnicity or culture is a good deciding factor on who goes where, and ultimately I think it's unethical in any practical application that has a chance of working - urban gentrification is not what I would expect to ever yield results that would satisfy the condition of "people having their own homeland"
    Last edited by oskar; 01-11-2018 at 01:06 AM.
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