Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
They may be immoral for other reasons if e.g., they fit your stereotype of the poor lazy person who wants to give nothing to society and be looked after by others, but that doesn't equate to being 'greedy'.
Let's not forget I'm qualified to make this judgment. This has been me for ten years. And yes, deep down, it can be called greed. I want something for nothing that others are working hard for... a reasonably healthy and happy existence.

Had my benefits been taken away from me, if I then allow myself to get to the point of starving, and begging for money from grafters, then I have to question the morality of my decisions leading up to this point.

When I talk of starving people, I'm not talking about Africans. We're talking here about benefits, aren't we? I'm talking about UK, and by extension USA, and any other civilised nation for that matter. People shouldn't be starving in this country, and if they are, well chances are they fucked up big somewhere along the way. I am a lazy fuck and not once have I ever found myself having to beg for food or money beyond asking friend or family for a loan. That instinct that drives me to survive means I don't allow it to get to that point.

It's different if we're talking about thrid world countries where people are born in slums. That's why I think benefits need to exist, even for the unwilling. Without them, we get slums. That's what happens when stupid and umotivated people are left to fend for themselves.