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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Yep. One is based on cold, hard, natural fact, while the other is based on naive delusion.
    So then I assume you classify Scandinavia, Japan, UK, etc., as capitalist and not socialist countries?
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So then I assume you classify Scandinavia, Japan, UK, etc., as capitalist and not socialist countries?
    Well ask yourself a question... can you set up a business-for-profit, and employ people to work for you, in these countries? If so, there's a healthy dose of capitalism going on there which means any "socialism" going on is the kind that is actually of benefit to business, such as free health and education.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Well ask yourself a question... can you set up a business-for-profit, and employ people to work for you, in these countries? If so, there's a healthy dose of capitalism going on there which means any "socialism" going on is the kind that is actually of benefit to business, such as free health and education.
    Where does the funding for the healthcare and education come from?
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Where does the funding for the healthcare and education come from?
    According to Ong, it comes from the delusional sky fairy.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Where does the funding for the healthcare and education come from?
    Tax. Yes yes, I can see where you're going. Ask Norway how they do it. But a healthy, educated population is better for business than a dumb, unhealthy population, right? Unless you just want drones doing monotomous jobs before dying shortly after retirement.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Tax. Yes yes, I can see where you're going.
    Where am I going with this?

    Ask Norway how they do it.
    Do you mean how Norway subsidizes law-created monopolies by using the successes of its competitive markets in other sectors?

    But a healthy, educated population is better for business than a dumb, unhealthy population, right?
    Depends on how much it costs compared to the benefits and compared to what would happen otherwise.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    free health and education.
    I just paid £.30 for a box of aspirin the other day. Don't talk to me about your free health, pinky.

    And anyways these are unmistakably socialist ideas. Try going to the US and buying nicotine gum - it costs more than same amount of nicotine's worth of cigarettes do.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    And anyways these are unmistakably socialist ideas.
    Sure they are. Does that make you wanna go the full hog with socialism?

    Nah, thought not.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Sure they are. Does that make you wanna go the full hog with socialism?

    Nah, thought not.
    You mean all the way to communism? No, cause that would no longer be socialism.

    Maybe I have a different understanding of socialism than you do. I assume it's a hybrid of capitalism and communism, at least in terms of how wealth is distributed.

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