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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Trump's success implies his intelligence, it doesn't prove his intelligence.
    It's bigly, even hugely, more likely that he is intelligent than some uber Forest Gump kind of lucky, but it can't be known for sure.
    I mean, if you gotta play this semantic nerd-game where "there is no such thing as null" go ahead. You're coming to the right conclusion, which is more than can be said for other people in this thread.

    Intelligence manifests in many, many forms.
    I don't think anyone could credibly deny that Trump has extremely high charismatic intelligence.
    I don't think anyone could credibly argue that Trump has low business intelligence.
    Stop with this. Intelligence is the ability to acquire skills and knowledge. Leave it at that. Trying to slice and dice things into different categories of intelligence is just a futile exercise. Next thing you know we'll be talking about tie-tying intelligence, or combover intelligence, or pornstar fucking intelligence. C'mon.

    (Personally, I think he edges on low empathy / borderline sociopathic tendencies, his daughter certainly does, but that's neither a fault nor a criticism of a successful CEO and/or world leader. Making dispassionate decisions which ignore arguments based on pathos is a good thing in a successful leader.)
    Just say 'pragmatism', sheesh

    His apparently poor ability to answer complex questions off the cuff isn't indicative of either A) that he really doesn't have answers to these questions, or B) that it matters.
    A) He's not under oath, and may see no advantage to adding fuel to the perpetual fire of criticizing POTUS. If the criticism is all idiots calling him an idiot, then he doesn't have to waste any minutes addressing that in any way.
    B) He has excellent advisors, and so long as he is capable of trusting the experts he's appointed to be his advisors, that's just as good.
    Henry Ford once sued the Chicago Tribute for slander after it called him "ignorant". In court, the Tribune's lawyer tried to prove Ford's ignorance by asking him trivia questions, mostly related to American history. Ford, being a high school dropout, couldn't answer. He merely explained to the counselor that he could push a button on his desk and, within minutes, have a dozen experts in his office ready to explain everything about anything.

    Ford won the case, and the court awarded him six cents.
    Last edited by BananaStand; 02-22-2018 at 02:32 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I mean, if you gotta play this semantic nerd-game where "there is no such thing as null" go ahead. You're coming to the right conclusion, which is more than can be said for other people in this thread.
    Right. It's our insistence that words have meanings, the most popular of which are collected in dictionaries, which is the fault, here.

    It's certainly not that you use the word "prove" metaphorically to mean "really likely, but not certain" in a conversation just begging for misunderstanding (a political conversation).


    You can gripe that it's other people's fault that you're not understood all you like, but it's not going to address your desire to be understood until YOU start playing the game the rest of us are playing... the game where we want to express our ideas in the most understandable way for our audience so that we can spend a minimum amount of time bickering over mangled metaphors and most of our time actually sharing our ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Right. It's our insistence that words have meanings, the most popular of which are collected in dictionaries, which is the fault, here.

    It's certainly not that you use the word "prove" metaphorically to mean "really likely, but not certain" in a conversation just begging for misunderstanding (a political conversation).
    Says the guy who eschews the dictionary definition of "intelligence" so he can slice and dice it however is necessary in order for his ramblings to make sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    You can gripe that it's other people's fault that you're not understood all you like, but it's not going to address your desire to be understood until YOU start playing the game the rest of us are playing... the game where we want to express our ideas in the most understandable way for our audience so that we can spend a minimum amount of time bickering over mangled metaphors and most of our time actually sharing our ideas.
    Are you 'sharing ideas'? I must have missed it. All I see is you pissing on what was a fine exchange of ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Says the guy who eschews the dictionary definition of "intelligence" so he can slice and dice it however is necessary in order for his ramblings to make sense.
    OK
    Intelligence has been defined in many different ways including as one's capacity for logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, and problem solving. It can be more generally described as the ability or inclination to perceive or deduce information, and to retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment or context.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Are you 'sharing ideas'?
    Words are symbols for ideas, and by typing and posting words, I am sharing ideas.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I must have missed it. All I see is you pissing on what was a fine exchange of ideas.
    I know, man. You see what you want to see, and nothing more.

    You can't imagine that the reason your statement was even being argued with was because you said something you don't actually believe in the first place, but you're too stubborn, conceited, and entitled look at anything you've said and reflect upon the fact that maybe you chose not the best word to communicate your idea.

    Adorable.
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    None of this actually addresses the question of whether he's fit to be president. He might have an IQ of 200 but if all he does is watch Fox News, tweet, and eat cheeseburgers he's prolly not right for the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    None of this actually addresses the question of whether he's fit to be president. He might have an IQ of 200 but if all he does is watch Fox News, tweet, and eat cheeseburgers he's prolly not right for the job.
    Fortunately that's not all he does.
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    Golfing doesn't count as work.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Golfing doesn't count as work.
    He also fucks porn stars
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    He also fucks porn stars
    I doubt he'll ever be fucking his wife again though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Golfing doesn't count as work.
    It counts as exercise though, which he isn't getting enough of.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It counts as exercise though, which he isn't getting enough of.
    Touche.

    It's important that he be fit so he can tweet what he sees on Fox News.

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