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[Savy]

Why is it punishment? If I try to move to New Zealand, and they say I'm useless to them so I can stay in the UK, well I'm not being punsihed by New Zealand. I have no God-given right to go where the hell I like on the planet. I mean, if I demand $100 off you, and you politely tell me to fuck off, are you punishing me? By your logic, it seems so.

Why don't you? It makes no sense to me that you can't go where you want but other people can dictate where you can and can't go.

[BananaStand]

Why don't you? It makes no sense to me that you can't go where you want but other people can dictate where you can and can't go.

It really bothers me that you're an educator.

If you expect a government to provide a sufficient infrastructure to maintain an economy, and you expect a government to maintain law and order to the degree that it ensures a fair market place........then OBVIOUSLY you care about who is coming into your country, and how many.

[Savy]

It really bothers me that you're an educator.

If you expect a government to provide a sufficient infrastructure to maintain an economy, and you expect a government to maintain law and order to the degree that it ensures a fair market place........then OBVIOUSLY you care about who is coming into your country, and how many.

Yep we need government to do all of those things. God forbid they didn't.

[OngBonga]

Why don't you? It makes no sense to me that you can't go where you want but other people can dictate where you can and can't go.

It makes no sense to you? Thing is, in the case of New Zealand, the NZ govt have a resposibility to provide for those already there. That's kind of their job, to ensure their population is educated, healthy as has the neccessary infrastrusture to work. Why should they just let me go there to live? What does New Zealand owe me? I'll tell you what... exactly the same amount that the UK owes people from outside of these shores.

I can't go to live in NZ because I don't have any moeny and I don't have a job to go to. Is it fair? Of course it is. If they have a responsibility to me, then they have the same responsibility to another 7 billion people.

[Savy]

It makes no sense to you? Thing is, in the case of New Zealand, the NZ govt have a resposibility to provide for those already there. That's kind of their job, to ensure their population is educated, healthy as has the neccessary infrastrusture to work. Why should they just let me go there to live? What does New Zealand owe me? I'll tell you what... exactly the same amount that the UK owes people from outside of these shores.

I can't go to live in NZ because I don't have any moeny and I don't have a job to go to. Is it fair? Of course it is. If they have a responsibility to me, then they have the same responsibility to another 7 billion people.

The only thing with this is that you don't just want to go to NZ you want NZ to look after you they are different things.

Also it's very easy to argue that the UK has a larger obligation to fairly large parts of the world compared to what NZ does to you lol.

[BananaStand]

people from outside of these shores.

Is that an actual British expression?

"these shores"?

You're an island, you have ONE shore