*** Official Politics Shitposting Thread ***

[OngBonga]

To get to USA from either El Salvador or Honduras, you'll need to go through Guatemala and then Mexico. According to the Fragile States Index (http://fundforpeace.org/fsi/) Guatemala is less stable than both El Salvador and Honduras. So if they're running for their lives from an unstable country, why the fuck are they heading north?

If they head south, they will first get to Nicaragua, which is about as stable as Honduras, and then on to Costa Rica and then Panama, both very stable, comparable to USA. Further, El Salvador, Honduras, Costa Rica and Panama all have something in common... language. These nations are also MUCH closer than USA.

So Costa Rica is closer, safer to get to, and culturally similar. Yet they still travel north.

Why? Economics.

[Poopadoop]

To get to USA from either El Salvador or Honduras, you'll need to go through Guatemala and then Mexico. According to the Fragile States Index (http://fundforpeace.org/fsi/) Guatemala is less stable than both El Salvador and Honduras. So if they're running for their lives from an unstable country, why the fuck are they heading north?

If they head south, they will first get to Nicaragua, which is about as stable as Honduras, and then on to Costa Rica and then Panama, both very stable, comparable to USA. Further, El Salvador, Honduras, Costa Rica and Panama all have something in common... language. These nations are also MUCH closer than USA.

So Costa Rica is closer, safer to get to, and culturally similar. Yet they still travel north.

Why? Economics.

Again, it's irrelevant WHY they choose any particular country. Some probably do go to Costa Rica or Panama. The rules don't stipulate they have to go to the nearest stable country, so they don't really have to explain their choice. That's the beauty of being an asylum seeker running for your life.

[BananaStand]

Again, it's irrelevant WHY they choose any particular country. Some probably do go to Costa Rica or Panama. The rules don't stipulate they have to go to the nearest stable country, so they don't really have to explain their choice. That's the beauty of being an asylum seeker running for your life.

Dude...just stop. If their claims to asylum were so rock-solid and bound by international law....they would just wait in line like everyone else. They try to go around the system for a reason. Stop acting like these are oppressed people deserving of sympathy. They're opportunistic criminals supported by opportunistic partisan demagogues.

[Poopadoop]

blah blah blah

demagogues.

lol, it's real cute how you keep using this word when you clearly have no idea what it means. Kinda like Trump trying to explain what a hurricane is.

[BananaStand]

lol, it's real cute how you keep using this word when you clearly have no idea what it means. Kinda like Trump trying to explain what a hurricane is.

My use of the word was wholly apt. You're running our arguments and falling back on insults.

Why don't you just save yourself the trouble and say "Banana, you win, I'm retarded"

[Poopadoop]

My use of the word was wholly apt. You're running our arguments and falling back on insults.

Why don't you just save yourself the trouble and say "Banana, you win, I'm retarded"

Actually I'm just getting bored of trying to talk sense to you and Ong when you're both more interested in talking any shit you can to defend separating children from their parents.

[BananaStand]

Actually I'm just getting bored of trying to talk sense to you and Ong when you're both more interested in talking any shit you can to defend separating children from their parents.

no one is defending that. But to put all the blame on Trump's administration is not acknowledging the whole problem at all.

First of all, if you made it all the way to northern mexico, your *need* for asylum is pretty fucking dubious in the first place.

Second, if you have a legit asylum claim....then just wait in line. What imminent threat exists in Northern Mexico that makes you above the rules??

Breaking the rules has consequences. Whether you're an asylum seeker with a legitimate claim, or whether you're a criminal smuggler with MS-13 tattoos on your forehead....the law applies the same. You can't cross the border in between checkpoints. period. Don't do it, or you will be charged. What's wrong with that?

Poop - you refuse to acknowledge that a 'catch and release' policy only incentivizes people to take children on dangerous journeys.

Should there be a better process for reuniting people with minor children....probably. If that's the worst thing Trump does in his presidency, he's one of the all-time greats. The problem got fixed pretty shortly after it was publicized, and it would have been fixed sooner if congressional democrats weren't cocksucking pricks. So sorry that Trump isn't batting 1.000. What do you want him to do about it now?

[OngBonga]

That's the beauty of being an asylum seeker running for your life.

They're not running for their life. If you're being chased by a wolf, do you run towards lions?