$20 -> $1000

[OngBonga]

I think given eff stacks we just fold the 68s. I know it sucks, but we have so little implied odds post flop, and ICM considerations too probably, plus we're oop, I think it's a clear fold. Hand is butchered post flop too, we should call flop, his bet is puny and gives us great odds. If he jams we're in a horrible spot, when we had chance to peel cheaply. As played c/f turn since we have very little fold equity and no longer have implied odds to draw even if the money always goes in. This shove gets called nearly always considering he b/c'd flop with a <20bb stack, even JT probably sighcalls. I don't see what he has that he can fold.

[Savy]

I think given eff stacks we just fold the 68s. I know it sucks, but we have so little implied odds post flop, and ICM considerations too probably, plus we're oop, I think it's a clear fold. Hand is butchered post flop too, we should call flop, his bet is puny and gives us great odds. If he jams we're in a horrible spot, when we had chance to peel cheaply. As played c/f turn since we have very little fold equity and no longer have implied odds to draw even if the money always goes in. This shove gets called nearly always considering he b/c'd flop with a <20bb stack, even JT probably sighcalls. I don't see what he has that he can fold.

We are so far away from the money that ICM doesn't really matter all that much. It's not even close to being a fold pre-flop, we don't need implied odds when we have straight up odds. Calling the flop seems silly so short and is likely pretty bad as we can't really be folding and we're OOP. Shoving the flop is what I should have done but at least what I did let's villain make some pretty large mistakes which is good.

[OngBonga]

...but at least what I did let's villain make some pretty large mistakes which is good.

What large mistake do you think he can make when you raise? If we're talking about exploitable mistakes with regards to your respective ranges, then sure. But if you're talking about specifically this hand, well he can only make a mistake by folding, and we don't know he does this even with AK.

I think raising this flop with an open ender is a pretty big mistake. I would much prefer you do this with a gutshot or ace high with a bdfd, something you have no problem letting go of when he continues and doesn't make any money by calling.

[OngBonga]

Fwiw I would snap call pre and c/r flop allin if villain had a bounty on his head. He doesn't, does he? Not in the Mill?